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Any chance of a repressing?
I cannot believe the interest in this beyond the 500 copies. If we did sign on to reprint 500 more would people support it? For us that means an additional license and payment to MGM. Thoughts?
- Bryon
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Mar 14, 2019 - 1:36 PM
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I saw this thread and past it by without a click originally because the property itself has always been one that I just missed being the prime target for it.
I don't know about anyone else, but even as a lifelong devotee of nerd culture, it's that properties that arrived for those younger than myself, that have always seemed silly, cheesy, and disposable tho they really aren't anymore than the lesser things I dearly love from a few seasons earlier (StarCrash, anyone?).
So it was only out of boredom that I finally clicked this thread and found out that Bill Conti did the music for this film (never saw the film, of course). Listening to those samples, seems he did a more than fine job with it too.
Disappointed now that I missed this.
Although I thought I'd already learned this lesson several times over the last few years, a new example always comes along- don't discount a movie that I have no interest in whatsoever as a movie, when it comes to it's soundtrack. Two different animals.
And bad, or at least uninteresting (to me) films can often yield fantastic listening experiences.
So yeah, I would definitely be paying attention next time, should this be repressed.
Selling out 500 in days would seem to suggest that another 500 shouldn't last more than a few weeks/months. And all the heavy lifting has already been done, hasn't it?
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Any chance of a repressing?
I cannot believe the interest in this beyond the 500 copies. If we did sign on to reprint 500 more would people support it? For us that means an additional license and payment to MGM. Thoughts?
- Bryon
I can only speak for myself and say that I was eyeing this but due to a temporary cash shortfall was not able to snag it in time.
May I ask how you settled on 500 units? I know it's been released a few times but seems a very popular title. Would 1000 units have been too expensive? Would it have been possible to licence 1000 units but only press 500 initially to gauge interest before committing to an entire run?
Bryon (notefornote) correct me if I'm wrong. The whole purpose of every release is for it to sell out so you keep growing a label so you can do more and more releases. If you release an album and put a lot into it along with a hefty advance to the studio, if that does not sell well out of the gate or takes years to sell out, that doesn't help the label as they were probably hopeful to use those funds to put into the next release etc. etc. We all know that a 1000 limited edition does not sell out instantly. Years ago EVERY single (pretty much) 1000 unit sold out in days. Those days are gone. We all see the numbers and when a title is 1000, or 2000, or 3000 or more, most of us say, oh I got time, I'll get it eventually. Label need the buyer to buy these sooner than later. If N4N would have done a 1000. I believe many would sit on it and say well it's a 1000 which is low, but it will be around for a bit and I'll wait for more pressing buys that are closer to selling out. I've said the exact same thing in my head and know others do. Repressing this at another 500, is there another 500 out there. Or could N4N sell a solid 75 more and that's it? Who only knows. The more responses they get the more it may entice them to do another repressing, which also means going back to the studio and paying another advance and all that.
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Mar 14, 2019 - 5:54 PM
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BryonDavis
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Any chance of a repressing?
I cannot believe the interest in this beyond the 500 copies. If we did sign on to reprint 500 more would people support it? For us that means an additional license and payment to MGM. Thoughts?
- Bryon
I can only speak for myself and say that I was eyeing this but due to a temporary cash shortfall was not able to snag it in time.
May I ask how you settled on 500 units? I know it's been released a few times but seems a very popular title. Would 1000 units have been too expensive? Would it have been possible to licence 1000 units but only press 500 initially to gauge interest before committing to an entire run?
Bryon (notefornote) correct me if I'm wrong. The whole purpose of every release is for it to sell out so you keep growing a label so you can do more and more releases. If you release an album and put a lot into it along with a hefty advance to the studio, if that does not sell well out of the gate or takes years to sell out, that doesn't help the label as they were probably hopeful to use those funds to put into the next release etc. etc. We all know that a 1000 limited edition does not sell out instantly. Years ago EVERY single (pretty much) 1000 unit sold out in days. Those days are gone. We all see the numbers and when a title is 1000, or 2000, or 3000 or more, most of us say, oh I got time, I'll get it eventually. Label need the buyer to buy these sooner than later. If N4N would have done a 1000. I believe many would sit on it and say well it's a 1000 which is low, but it will be around for a bit and I'll wait for more pressing buys that are closer to selling out. I've said the exact same thing in my head and know others do. Repressing this at another 500, is there another 500 out there. Or could N4N sell a solid 75 more and that's it? Who only knows. The more responses they get the more it may entice them to do another repressing, which also means going back to the studio and paying another advance and all that.
Yes, true but, as you know, I have always tried to see things from the customer's view too. As a fan myself, it sucks when I miss out on something cool that I wanted. I do agree that spending money on a project is always a crapshoot. Somebody asked earlier why we chose 500...MGM deals are 1000, 2000, 3000 and up. You pay a set rate for each amount you tell them you will make. We wanted to do a small run of vinyl. I know some roll their eyes at the format but it's a good business to be in if you know where to sell the units.
So yes, the days of 1000 are done but sometimes a label has to also make xxx amount (see: any release from Warner Music, Sony Music, Universal Music for example) or no deal. As a label we must weigh what will sell fastest and move on if it's limited. Notefornote works with up and coming and established composers for newer and smaller films and we release what we feel are interesting (reissues or unreleased scores) and cool titles from the past for our archival series. Who knows if making more would make us accidental geniuses or we kick ourselves later for not reading the tea leaves properly. That is the constant dilemma sadly. As a label with limited resources we do have to pick our battles BUT I do love to see happy people so I guess that is my issue. How do I make more people happy?
There may come a time where we put out a bunch of releases and some sell so well we wonder why we didn't go higher on the limit or we make the mistake of gauging a small amount of interest as something bigger. All I care about is trying to do right by the customer. I know Peter cares about every customer, as well, so that is our mission and why we work so well together.
Anyhoo...gotta get back to shipping CDs. I love these talks and would love to discuss odd ideas and concepts to gauge interest at a later date. All this info is good to read. Thanks so much everyone!
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SHIPPING UPDATE!!
Gwildor & his friends are busy packing & shipping out our sold out "Masters Of The Universe" 2 CD set w/music by Academy award winning composer Bill Conti. Check out our website for other awesome releases & look forward to more great releases from N4N Music!
www.notefornotemusic.com
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Any chance of a repressing?
I cannot believe the interest in this beyond the 500 copies. If we did sign on to reprint 500 more would people support it? For us that means an additional license and payment to MGM. Thoughts?
- Bryon
I think you might want to do what MV did on the "Star Trek" box -- get signatures from people first to see how many people are interested. Also, any retailers (like SAE for example) that want more copies to sell.
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