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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Beneath the Planet of the Apes
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2014 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

So Fantastic Voyage got a re-issue... what are the odds that this one will too? BTW, if anyone has one they want to trade, check out my post in the trading post.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

This is one FSM I don't have. I notice the CD rounds off with the Taylor-made 'Doomsday.' It seems Heston wanted to nail the series right there and then. Does that make for a cringeworthy finale, given that not even the Cobalt casing could definitively wrap up the show? Was the 'blue dot that is no longer a blue dot' narrated overlay right at the end appropriate? Did Chuck ever feel even the slightest curiosity to visit any of the 'revenge of the blue dot' recurring entries in the series?

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The disc in the LLL box is basically a re-issue. Sounds like your questions are about the movie, not the music. For which the BtPota-Rosenman troll will no doubt chime in with his dislike.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Well, the commentary is on the disc at the end. It always struck me as being quite overly dramatic. On the one hand, it seems to be perhaps a little on the excessive side. Whether this was an attempt to ellicit a lump in the throat from the average cinema-goer at the thought of the deliberate destruction of all life on earth by forcing them to grapple with the idea of absolute finality, is certainly an interesting idea - "the woe unto ye that meddle," sort of thought bubble. Of course, right now, it does seem to be a little more relevant to the immediate application of the game of consequences, don't you think? And when you think a little harder about this movie, it does suddenly pop out at you as being more akin to sci-fi/horror, rather than just sci-fi.

I saw this movie in a cinema first time round. It left a distinctly uneasy feeling in the mind of my 7 or 8 year old self. It was not a pretty picture. And to qualify this impression, the composer sort of weirded it out a little more with his composition. Was this a ground-breaking movie with it's doom and gloom prognosis?

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

We must be the same age. I must have seen it in the cinema as I followed the series, but my only recollection is seeing the final film "Battle of the Pota" with a friend. I think we liked it, but probably wouldn't have bought a lunchbox-tie. They really cranked out the sequels.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

We had a little chat about this particular birdie on t'other side only recently, LC. On the whole, I find it a better entry in the series - I think it pobably single-handedly achieved a level of 'warpage' that left all the others trailing well behind. The ending of Blake's 7 probably owes its inception to the ending of Beneath. Every f'kn body dies in an orgy of sudden death in the end. That's undoubtedly from the Heston end of the business, who wanted a definitive wrap to the two entries in the entire series. That really does reflect the type of Wild Bunch throwing of caution to the wind, by electing for that chaotic self-destruction that comes from the ultimate attrition born of a heavy sense of world weariness. Perhaps that is why it speaks to me a little louder right now. Wish I could have a listen in to the score to add to the ambience of the moment. Oh, well!

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I suppose American culture was so topsy-turvy that unhappy endings were becoming fashionable. Even adding a Dr. Strangelove angle with a sacrilegious edge might have been unsurprising. Still, it's impressive they managed a sequel (however nonsensical) after the end of the world.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2020 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Yeah, I would have loved to have seen the patched up earth-ship being taken to the launch pad with horse and cart. I expect the launch site itself would have looked something rather like Stonehenge. "May the Lawgiver bless those who sail in her and that she reaches her destination, wherever that may be, in one piece."

Pity we didn't get to see the entire planet being nuked from orbit, or what it was that caused it to fly backwards in time near enough to its point of origin. Must've gotten mixed up with a parallel universe along the way. Yeah, of course, that must've been it.

 
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