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 Posted:   Aug 24, 2015 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

In another thread on a peplum soundtrack on Kronos Records, Mr. Stefan Schlegel had indicated that there are currently two Lavagnino soundtracks in the pipeline (one from 1960 and one from 1961) after which attention can be focused onto AFL's "Maciste contro il vampire" (1961) and also possibly onto "Ercole sfida Sansone" (1963 & aka "Hercules, Samson & Ulysses").

Since these upcoming Lavagnino titles are not from any English or French productions, I'm beginning my speculations in this new thread (so not to derail the other thread on Trovajoli on Kronos).

I'll start with year 1960. By my estimation, there's about 5 films which could be one of the impending Alhambra projects:

  • I baccanali di Tiberio (comedy)
  • Messalina (Venere imperatrice) (historical drama)
  • Tutti a casa (aka "Everybody Go Home!") (war drama)
  • La rivolta degli schiavi (aka "The Revolt Of The Slaves") (adventure/peplum?)
  • Gastone (comedy)

    I'm guessing Alhambra might be releasing one of the middle ones above (unless they will surprise us with one of the comedies).

    Any other FSMer care to hazard a guess as to which one might it be? (and would the 1960 item be the one that's in stereo?)

    I'll do another entry for 1961 later this week...

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     Posted:   Aug 25, 2015 - 4:30 PM   
     By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

    ... so far, no response from anybody ...

    ... but I only now just learned that the 1961 film Il relitto (aka "The Wastrel") was a co-production between Italy & Cyprus directed by Michael Cacoyannis.
    Cacoyannis usually had Mikis Theodorakis score his movies but for "The Wastrel" Lavagnino got the assignment.

    Could this be one of titles coming forth ... ?

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 29, 2015 - 6:31 PM   
     By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

    Other Lavagnino titles from 1961:

  • La grande olimpiade (documentary) May 26, 1961
  • Orazi e Curiazi (historical) October 19, 1961 [Italy + Yugoslavia]
  • Le meraviglie di Aladino (aka "The Wonders Of Aladin") (Bava fantasy) October 31, 1961 [Italy, France & U.S.A.]
  • L'ammutinamento (adventure) December 1, 1961 [Italy & France]
  • Madame Sans-GĂȘne (romance) December 22, 1961 [Italy, France & Spain]
  • I fratelli Corsi (action) December 22, 1961 [France & Italy]
  • Ursus e la ragazza tartara (adventure) December 30, 1961 [Italy & France]
  • I sogni muoiono all'alba (war drama) September 3, 2009 (?) [Italy]
  • Morte di un bandito (drama) no release date in IMDB [Italy]

    There's also many Lavagnino-scored co-productions from 1961 between Italy & France plus a few others (Italy, France & USA, etc.).

    (I don't know if Mr. Schlegel ruled them out as well or if he was referring to solely French productions ... )

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     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 3:27 AM   
     By:   MCurry29   (Member)

    My response is that I will buy them. Question for Zardoz: of the scores still available which should be my next 5-10 peplum scores to purchase. My start was Il Gigante di Metropolis and I adore this score. Need me some more in that vein.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 4:59 AM   
     By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

    My response is that I will buy them. Question for Zardoz: of the scores still available which should be my next 5-10 peplum scores to purchase. My start was Il Gigante di Metropolis and I adore this score. Need me some more in that vein.

    Hi, MCurry29.

    I think you should get one apiece of these 4 composers: Trovajoli, Savina, Marinuzzi Jr & Lavagnino.

    For starters:

    Trovajoli's 1961 MACISTE
    Savina's '63 URSUS
    Marinuzzi Jr's '62 MARTE
    and while it's still in stock @ SAE ... Lavagnino's L'Assedio di Siracusa (it's 'sold out' on Digitmovies' site)

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 11:55 AM   
     By:   slint   (Member)

    I welcome any new Lavagnino from Alhambra and other labels.

    My preference would be for comedies, but any genre is fine.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 1:32 PM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    At least one of the Lavagnino titles which will come soon on the Alhambra label has been mentioned above, but it is not from a really popular genre.smile

     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 1:52 PM   
     By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

    At least one of the Lavagnino titles which will come soon on the Alhambra label has been mentioned above, but it is not from a really popular genre.smile

    I trust your taste, Stefan. I've never been disappointed by any Lavagnino title on Alhambra thus far smile

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 2:12 PM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    Thank you, Stefan. I am sure that you won't be disappointed at all by our new Lavagnino CD. It is a magnificent epic score with many brilliant and lush themes for orchestra and choir. Personally, I think it is one of the best symphonic scores Lavagnino has ever composed. Pure delight! I am very happy that we can release it in this way. We have about 65 minutes with his music for the main program - and the CD will also have some bonus tracks which in this case are a bit unusual and about which I will talk later on when the CD will be released smile.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 3:06 PM   
     By:   James Corry   (Member)

    I would like to see a release of the score to "Goliath And The Vampires"

    J.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 3:25 PM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    As I said before in another thread, GOLIATH AND THE VAMPIRES will certainly come because tapes are there in the Lavagnino estate, but don't expect the CD release before next year.

     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 3:51 PM   
     By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

    Great news hope it is Messalina
    I'm not familiar with the other titles

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 5:57 PM   
     By:   shadowman   (Member)

    Stefan, any chance we will see a complete or at least expanded score for "Ursus" by Roman Vlad?
    It's the last of the four Ursus scores from the old Cinevox cd which has not yet gotten an expanded
    release. Thanks.

     
     
     Posted:   Aug 31, 2015 - 6:02 PM   
     By:   James Corry   (Member)

    That's good news Stefan (I'm sorry; I didn't read the other thread....). As you know AIP butchered Lavagnino's original score substituting Les Baxter's music for "Goliath And The Barbarians" (I think....) over much of the film. But the parts of Lavagnino's score that DID come through were fabulous. I can't wait to hear his original score!

    J.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 2:42 AM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    Stefan, any chance we will see a complete or at least expanded score for "Ursus" by Roman Vlad?
    It's the last of the four Ursus scores from the old Cinevox cd which has not yet gotten an expanded
    release. Thanks.

    This is a question not for us, but for Digitmovies. So I can't really tell you. But I think that at the moment the Italian labels try to get out as many scores from the CAM catalogue as possible because they want to use the opportunity that the gates are open there via the Sugar Group. This might also be the reason why Roman Vlad's URSUS has now been neglected. If things had not worked out this way, then URSUS might have already been released complete.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 2:56 AM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    Great news hope it is Messalina
    I'm not familiar with the other titles

    No,it's not MESSALINA as the rights for this score were with CAM. But apparently original tapes don't exist there anymore and it is also not available in the Lavagnino estate.

    I'll give you a little hint. Some parts of the score which we will release in its complete form in stereo were reused in 1963 for the VATICANO II documentary. If anyone of you has this rare double LP (one disc only in mono with about 30 minutes was devoted to the Lavagnino music), you then might also know what kind of music to expect.smile

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 5:58 AM   
     By:   slint   (Member)


    No,it's not MESSALINA as the rights for this score were with CAM. But apparently original tapes don't exist there anymore and it is also not available in the Lavagnino estate.

    I'll give you a little hint. Some parts of the score which we will release in its complete form in stereo were reused in 1963 for the VATICANO II documentary. If anyone of you has this rare double LP (one disc only in mono with about 30 minutes was devoted to the Lavagnino music), you then might also know what kind of music to expect.smile


    Does the VATICANO II LP contain any additional music? I was thinking about purchasing that one, but this isn't actually my favourite genre! Although I'm sure the music is great.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 6:24 AM   
     By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

    Does the VATICANO II LP contain any additional music? I was thinking about purchasing that one, but this isn't actually my favourite genre! Although I'm sure the music is great.

    There seems to be one additional classical piece on the VATICANO II-LP besides the Lavagnino tracks. But you have to keep in mind that NO music at all was especially composed for that documentary CONCILIO ECUMENICO VATICANO II in 1963. Therefore all of the Lavagnino music on our CD was in fact composed for another movie made three years earlier and which has nothing to do with VATICANO II. I hope it is clearer now.
    And as I said only a part of it, not quite half of the original score - just some tracks which were more or less fitting - was reused for VATICANO II. So it is a really complicated story and you can read more about it in the liner notes I have written for the CD. I suppose that almost no collector knows what had happened here.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 10:14 AM   
     By:   shadowman   (Member)

    Stefan, any chance we will see a complete or at least expanded score for "Ursus" by Roman Vlad?
    It's the last of the four Ursus scores from the old Cinevox cd which has not yet gotten an expanded
    release. Thanks.

    This is a question not for us, but for Digitmovies. So I can't really tell you. But I think that at the moment the Italian labels try to get out as many scores from the CAM catalogue as possible because they want to use the opportunity that the gates are open there via the Sugar Group. This might also be the reason why Roman Vlad's URSUS has now been neglected. If things had not worked out this way, then URSUS might have already been released complete.


    Thanks for your reply Stefan. Somewhat discouraging news, but I will keep my fingers crossed.

     
     
     Posted:   Sep 1, 2015 - 10:18 AM   
     By:   petruccio   (Member)

    Stefan very good leads . It is Le Grande Olimpiade . Composed in 1961. There is an old LP RCA Victor Internacional (1 track). The music it's fantastic.I recommend the fabulous album released by Saimel Gli Invencibli Tre that contains ??a wonderful suite of Vaticano II .

     
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