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 Posted:   Jun 6, 2016 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I really like DSD remasters. So far I have THE RIGHT STUFF/NORTH AND SOUTH and STAR WARS EPISODES IV, V and VI.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2016 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

I think they are pointless at serving any sonic benefits. Because they are often sourced from PCM at resolutions (96khz or 192khz) less than DSD (2.8Ghz) and then converted to an upsampled DSD or DXD (384khz) and then reconverted back and down sampled to 44.khz PCM 16-bit.
It's more practical to just master at the original sample rate (assuming its at least 96khz 24 bit PCM) and down sample to 44.1khz 16-bit PCM for the CD.
DSD only makes sense if the source is DSD. Like if I had the original analog tapes to Stars Wars, and I captured it directly to DSD and then I released it as DSD (.DSF files)

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 2:44 AM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

DSD remastered for 16 bit CD is marketing fluff, pure and simple. If you need pure DSD, you either need an SACD and player, or a DSD download and compatible DAC. And many supposedly pure DSD re ordings have gone through a conversion to PCM for editing & mixing purposes, then back to DSD again.

A CD with DSD mentioned on the cover is a conplete misnomer, and the worst kind of marketing BS. Like blu-spec CDs. But people keep on falling for these things...

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 4:09 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

I have The Good The Bad and The Ugly/For A Few Dollars More, Quien Sabe? and Novecento, all of which (to my ears) sound better than the originals.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 4:14 AM   
 By:   SalaciousAckbar   (Member)

I have the Japanese Terminator 2 DSD remaster and it is a revelation compared to the the original Varese release. It makes the old CD sound like a sixth generation cassette tape. I also have the Alien Trilogy DSD remaster and it sounds quite excellent, but I don't have the original CD to compare it to.

Sadly, I missed out on the Aliens DSD remaster.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

Where does one even buy a DSD CD (not SACD)?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

Where does one even buy a DSD CD (not SACD)?

Japan. I believe most of the ones listed are released by Rambling Records. I don't care about the whole DSD remastering gimmick, but some of the releases do look pretty nice. I wonder if there's any chance their Papillon release fixed the tracks with the PAL speed issues from the Universal France release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

I got a new CD of Ennio Morricone's "Metti Una Sera A Cena" last year from Japan (eBay) after I'd been looking for it for ages.

I had no idea what DSD was, but was really pleased with finding it.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

The very first DSD recorded CD release I ever bought, broke my stereo system! When I played Jerry Goldsmith's score to Hollow Man for the very first time, one of the speaker terminals shorted out within the first 5 mins! Ok I know it was a coincidence, but for a long time I blamed that CD! :-)

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

dp

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

The very first DSD recorded CD release I ever bought, broke my stereo system! When I played Jerry Goldsmith's score to Hollow Man for the very first time, one of the speaker terminals shorted out within the first 5 mins! Ok I know it was a coincidence, but for a long time I blamed that CD! :-)

That's why you don't like DSD.winkJust kidding my friend. Some people like DSD, some don't.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2016 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   BOND007   (Member)

I have Star Wars trilogy DSD × Blu-speccd2 .

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2016 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

ROLLING STONES:
'Flowers'
"GOT LIVE IF YOU WANT It "

in this case there is a definite improvement in sound over the original remaster
brm

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2016 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

It may not be the DSD process that's making these albums sound better, but rather more attentive mastering.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2016 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

It may not be the DSD process that's making these albums sound better, but rather more attentive mastering.

This is exactly it.

Heres an example, The RCA Living Stereo SACD remasters from 2005-2009 are highly praised by audiophiles for their high fidelity and sonics by the original engineers of the recordings. By 2011 Sony obtained the RCA Living Stereo catalog, and remastered them as DSD remasters with different engineers and released them as budget priced boxsets. The resulting CDs featured compressed dynamics and the lost of all clarity and richness of the originals. The fact that they were remastered in DSD made no difference at all. It was just Sony's cookie cutter approach.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Why can't I find the ALIENS dsd soundtrack anywhere?

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Why can't I find the ALIENS dsd soundtrack anywhere?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%A8%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B32-%E3%80%90DSD%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%80%91-%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC/dp/B00OIYPIEW/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1477678442&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=aliens+DSD+release

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

It may not be the DSD process that's making these albums sound better, but rather more attentive mastering.

This is exactly it.

Heres an example, The RCA Living Stereo SACD remasters from 2005-2009 are highly praised by audiophiles for their high fidelity and sonics by the original engineers of the recordings. By 2011 Sony obtained the RCA Living Stereo catalog, and remastered them as DSD remasters with different engineers and released them as budget priced boxsets. The resulting CDs featured compressed dynamics and the lost of all clarity and richness of the originals. The fact that they were remastered in DSD made no difference at all. It was just Sony's cookie cutter approach.


Ive got 2 SACD titles from this series and while the performances are amazing but I didnt find any oomph in the output. The above rationale explains what went wrong. A disappointment nonethe less. I still dont understand what went wrong with DSD mastering on the Sony STARWARS reissues.

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Amazon US link for Aliens remaster:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OIYPIEW

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Amazon US link for Aliens remaster:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OIYPIEW


Thanks Jason for the US link, my Japanese is a little rusty.wink

 
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