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 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

Not sure if talked about before.......I have the Varese deluxe of this soundtrack. Is the Quartet worth the upgrade? Sound wise? Otherwise?

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I'm curious about this as well, I do really like the Varese.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Neilbucket852   (Member)

I find Quartet's release to be the definitive. It sounds crisper. I have the original release, the Varese expanded edition, and the most recent Quartet release, and Quartet's has made me want to listen to this score so much more of late. I'd highly recommend it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Plus the Quartet includes "Environmental source" :-) And the cover is the correct blue (not red)

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Quartet all the way. It has a brief cue not found on the Varese version plus the unused Clever Girl from the aborted first sessions, which is fascinating to hear the orchestra struggle with the complex writing. Also has all the source cues, superior sound quality and excellent liner notes. Also a clean version of “End of Dream” without the jingle attached and the film version of the main titles.

Get it if you can.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

Quartet smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I hate the font use on Quartet's releases (similar to my feelings about Kritzerland's otherwise fine releases), so for that reason alone, I side with Varese. Haha

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I've got the Varése and am certainly happy with that one; never saw the need to re-buy this score again.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

The Varese DE is a very satisfying presentation and I was very happy with it for 15 years. That said, the Quartet is a little better and if you have money to burn why not get it? (I'm a big help, aren't I?)

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

I heartily endorse the Quartet release. Apart from including the unused cue, the film version of "The Dream", and all of Goldsmith's source music, it minimizes the hiss that was present in the DE without compromising the overall quality

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2018 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I loved the DE, but the Quartet is better. In addition to the improved sound (not that the OST or the DE sounded bad), the additional material is very interesting.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I loved the DE, but the Quartet is better. In addition to the improved sound (not that the OST or the DE sounded bad), the additional material is very interesting.

I like the score enough to where I'm by now seriously considering the Quartet. Those folks make great stuff.

I have to ask: on a desert island, which?

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I like the score enough to where I'm by now seriously considering the Quartet. Those folks make great stuff.

I have to ask: on a desert island, which?


Well, if money is no object then why not have the best? The Quartet has the film version of "The Dream" as the main title bleeds into the two characters trekking across Mars and looking at the mountain.

The Varese Deluxe Edition is just great, though. You're not missing a whole lot if you don't have the Quartet.

Varese.... A-
Quartet.... A

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I like the score enough to where I'm by now seriously considering the Quartet. Those folks make great stuff.

I have to ask: on a desert island, which?


Well, if money is no object then why not have the best? The Quartet has the film version of "The Dream" as the main title bleeds into the two characters trekking across Mars and looking at the mountain.

The Varese Deluxe Edition is just great, though. You're not missing a whole lot if you don't have the Quartet.

Varese.... A-
Quartet.... A


This just got even tougher! But I do really like the Varese.

I imagine some folks would suggest catching up on the multitude of other JG scores first (and would be perfectly valid suggesting so).

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


The Varese Deluxe Edition is just great, though. You're not missing a whole lot if you don't have the Quartet.

Varese.... A-
Quartet.... A


This just got even tougher! But I do really like the Varese.

I imagine some folks would suggest catching up on the multitude of other JG scores first (and would be perfectly valid suggesting so).

Over the years, I've bought many soundtracks multiple times... sometimes, that was a very good investment, because a newer release had substantially improved sound or considerably expanded the material from the OST.

At other times, I'd say in retrospect it was a waste of money and I doubled up on albums that were perfectly fine. I don't need every snippet or every second of every film score, I am mostly interested in coherent listening experiences. And just because something is remastered obviously does not always mean it will sound better. Often times it doesn't, and sometimes it does not sound "better" or "worse", just "different".

If I did not own TOTAL RECALL already (or ownly owned the OST from the 1990s), I'd go for the Quartet release now obviously, but since I own the Varése Deluxe, that more than suffices for me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)


The Varese Deluxe Edition is just great, though. You're not missing a whole lot if you don't have the Quartet.

Varese.... A-
Quartet.... A


This just got even tougher! But I do really like the Varese.

I imagine some folks would suggest catching up on the multitude of other JG scores first (and would be perfectly valid suggesting so).


Over the years, I've bought many soundtracks multiple times... sometimes, that was a very good investment, because a newer release had substantially improved sound or considerably expanded the material from the OST.

At other times, I'd say in retrospect it was a waste of money and I doubled up on albums that were perfectly fine. I don't need every snippet or every second of every film score, I am mostly interested in coherent listening experiences. And just because something is remastered obviously does not always mean it will sound better. Often times it doesn't, and sometimes it does not sound "better" or "worse", just "different".

If I did not own TOTAL RECALL already (or ownly owned the OST from the 1990s), I'd go for the Quartet release now obviously, but since I own the Varése Deluxe, that more than suffices for me.

Exactly. I was just recently engaged in a conundrum involving The Fury. Both the Varese expanded and LLL were considered to be outstanding, and reccomendations really seemed polarized. I went with the LLL and am not in a big hurry on the Varese, though seriously interested now.

Another example is Rio Conchos: went wild over the Kritzerland, but now intensely curious re the rerecording (Intrada).

I should note that I usually just grab one release of a score and keep it (Ben Hur Complete, Tadlow BH, and multiple recordings of Fahrenheit 451 are pretty understandable exceptions, for instance).

I had both the Tadlow and Intrada Conan the Barbarian, but just settled for the Tadlow Destroyer, because it contained all of the Conan music I loved and sounded sensational...I felt the others were moot due to the freaky great job Tadlow did, and I still feel that way.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The Varese expanded version of The Fury is way too loud and is nowhere near as good as the LLL. Rio Conchos' Intrada re-recording is a much softer take on the score, lacking the grit of the original tracks, but I love it all the same. In that case, it's nice to have both versions. For The Fury, the LLL is the way to go.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Rio Conchos' Intrada re-recording is a much softer take on the score, lacking the grit of the original tracks, but I love it all the same.

Softer? More polished performance and recording, certainly (is that what you mean by the original having "grit"?), but listen to the LSO performance of Wall of Fire and then tell me it's a "softer take". It's mindblowing.

I do think the original performance flows better though...it helps that it's in complete form, I suspect.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Rio Conchos' Intrada re-recording is a much softer take on the score, lacking the grit of the original tracks, but I love it all the same.

Softer? More polished performance and recording, certainly (is that what you mean by the original having "grit"?), but listen to the LSO performance of Wall of Fire and then tell me it's a "softer take". It's mindblowing.

I do think the original performance flows better though...it helps that it's in complete form, I suspect.

Yavar


Thanks about the opinion on RC, Shaun.

I ended up liking RC quite a lot (it actually tore me away a few times from such masterpieces as Alien, The Fury, and Boys From Brazil the past several days). So the Intrada is a no-brainer for me, kind of like how I have the Broughton Julius Caesar but will eventually spring for the FSM as well. They're such excellent scores that I'll definitely want them.

It's just that I still have one yee-haw of my fave film composers' repertoire left to experience. Once I get my basic score collection down and judged, then it'll be more fun grabbing the reissues, rerecordings, and their like.

The mistake I made, buying all the Conans at once (when all I personally needed was the Tadlow Destroyer) won't happen again, that was just a froth of spending I'm trying to avoid...until my refund check lol!

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2018 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Quartet has better sound and, unlike the Varese, is actually complete.

Still waiting for some other label to pry Aliens out of Varese's hands.

 
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