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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Max Steiner's Lost in Space     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jul 26, 2018 - 7:57 PM     By:   RcM   (Member) I'm reading about the production of the original pilot to Lost in Space in 1965 in Marc Cushman's Lost in Space: The Authorized Biography of a Classic Sci-Fi Series, Vol. One. In an interview, Kevin Burns says that they found a complete score in the vault which matches all the scenes, but is not the one in the pilot (the one cut and pasted from various Herrmann scores). Also interviewed, Lew Hunter (an ABC production manager on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea - and Irwin Allen collaborator) - who says that Max Steiner composed a complete score for the Lost in Space pilot, but Irwin Allen rejected it as not being "outer space." So, does anyone know what became of this score - and if it could ever see a release? (It certainly would have made an interesting curiosity for the Lost in Space box set.)    Posted:   Jul 26, 2018 - 8:10 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) ...Max Steiner composed a complete score for the Lost in Space pilot, but Irwin Allen rejected it as not being "outer space." If it ain't outer space sounding, I'm not interested.    Posted:   Jul 26, 2018 - 8:25 PM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) Maybe the unused score was by Fred Steiner, and the guy remembering it misspoke. And even that would surprise me; it's funny that we'd only be hearing about a rejected pilot score now. It didn't show up in LLL's research for the 50th box, unless I missed a biggie in the booklet.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 5:36 AM     By:   Ray Faiola   (Member) Yes, I think it definitely would have been Fred, not Max.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 5:51 AM     By:   Zooba   (Member) Would love to hear a Max Steiner Star Trek. Were the 2 Steiner's related?    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 6:21 AM     By:   Heath   (Member) Would love to hear a Max Steiner Star Trek. Were the 2 Steiner's related? No.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 6:35 AM     By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member) Would love to hear a Max Steiner Star Trek. Were the 2 Steiner's related? No. But they're linked by Fred Steiner's masterful study of Max's KING KONG score.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 7:13 AM     By:   JEC   (Member) Would love to hear a Max Steiner Star Trek. Were the 2 Steiner's related? I'd love to hear Miklos Rosza's rejected score to "Saturday Night Fever".    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 7:14 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I also think it's Fred, not Max. But interesting bit of trivia. Curiously, some of the Golden Age composers DID to TV in the later part of their careers. Franz Waxman, for example, did an episode of CONVOY in '65 (which otherwise had two episode scores by John Williams and a theme by Bernard Herrmann). Why this series is so extremely obscure today, with that kind of talent involved, is beyond me.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 7:44 AM     By:   chriss   (Member) Fascinating news, a rejected score for the pilot? Would love to hear that!    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 8:24 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) Hopefully someone can identify who wrote the score. But it was never performed and recorded, right? It would be wonderful to hear a "new" Fred Steiner score from that era.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 8:36 AM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) Don't expect anything from me; first I'm hearing about it.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 8:58 AM     By:   Jeff Bond   (Member) When we did the Lost in Space boxed set we had all the paperwork and available recordings from the series. Certainly Max Steiner was never involved in the show--he wasn't one of Fox's regular composers and even in the 60s Steiner was a Hollywood legend and his involvement on a sci-fi TV series would have been big news. Fred Steiner did work on Lost in Space but not until midway through its first season; there's no record of him doing any full scores until season three. Anything is possible but this sounds like a case of misremembering to me; our LIS materials included tons of Fox library music and even cues from other Fox TV shows--I would think if there had been an entire unused score done then the music would have been retained for library use at the very least.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 9:17 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I don't know who Kevin Burns is (is he the same guy involved with the Netflix reboot?), but if he's still alive, someone should ask him the whereabouts of this mystery score. If it can be located, I'm sure the composer could be identified by our soundtrack experts. Sometimes you can tell by the annotations, handwriting, etc.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 10:51 AM     By:   Jeff Bond   (Member) I know Kevin Burns very well and worked closely with him while we were putting together the Lost in Space music set. Believe me, if there were a "Max Steiner pilot score" or indeed ANY previously unknown Lost in Space music he knew about, Kevin would have not only told us about it, he would have demanded that it be included on the set.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 11:18 AM     By:   That Neil Guy   (Member) I'm shocked I tell you shocked that there could be dubious claims in a Cushman book.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 11:22 AM     By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member) I'm reading about the production of the original pilot to Lost in Space in 1965 in Marc Cushman's Lost in Space: The Authorized Biography of a Classic Sci-Fi Series, Vol. One. That was your first mistake. Cushman has proven himself to be a terrible historian (to be polite) with his three Star Trek books. It's no surprise that his Lost in Space book is also filled with nonsense. Here are some fact checks done on his Trek books. https://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2015/02/on-pickups-and-lifts-in-man-trap.html https://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2015/05/and-on-seventh-day-conflicting.html https://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2015/11/credit-where-credit-is-due-producing.html Neil    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 11:26 AM     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member) Wouldn't the measure be what the poster said and if it was ture or false? "In an interview, Kevin Burns says" So, even if the guy's books are riddled with errors, if it's an accurately transcribed interview, then it's off him and onto Burns. If it's a "that's what I remember him saying" transcription, then it's back on him and off Burns. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 11:31 AM     By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member) Wouldn't the measure be what the poster said and if it was ture or false? "In an interview, Kevin Burns says" So, even if the guy's books are riddled with errors, if it's an accurately transcribed interview, then it's off him and onto Burns. If it's a "that's what I remember him saying" transcription, then it's back on him and off Burns. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. He doesn't accurately transcribe things. There are instances of that in the Trek books, where I've seen the original documents being transcribed and the Cushman versions are inaccurate. Look how quickly he's cranking out these books. Do you think there's a lot of research and quality control going on? Neil    Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 11:35 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I figured he got the wrong Steiner, but if there's not even a score, the premise of the thread is totally bogus.     General Discussion: Max Steiner's Lost in Space    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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