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 Posted:   Nov 26, 2018 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Lewya   (Member)

I am particularly interested in what concert hall composers think of Goldsmith and his scores.

These are the things I recall/can find:

At the time of Goldsmith's death, Philip Glass said this:

"The catalog of work he did was enormous—and it’s not just film but television as well. And of course they’re very well-known pieces. I just wondered when he had time to do it all; this was in the days when composers did things by themselves, this was not in the days of assembly-line film scores. The man was a very busy guy! “I was thinking about him and Elmer: Not only did they define at a certain period the language of film music, which for sure they did, but also I think the stature of the composer was raised by their work. They brought an artistic quality to the work, to the point that they became real artists working in the field of film. “The role of the composer became more respected and more honored through the work of these people. These were not Tin Pan Alley guys who were poking out tunes with one finger; men like these were handling the materials of music and orchestration in a very sophisticated way. Jerry was a man who brought a lot of craft to the work, and he brought a level of curiosity [to every project]. If you write film scores today, you have to be as serious about that as you are about a symphony—it will be judged by a very high standard."

When asked which film composers he admired, Jerry Goldsmith was the first name that John Corigliano mentioned (followed by Williams, Rosenman, Morricone and Rozsa).

"Brilliant work, I admired his freshness and versatility" - John Williams

In the 90s, Williams cited Goldsmith's Basic Instinct (and Newman's The Shawshank Redemption) as recent examples of "great film scoring".

"I don't know anyone, regardless of genre, with Goldsmith's stylistic versatility" - Esa-Pekka Salonen

"Goldsmith is personal, inventive and evocative" - Ned Rorem

"I admire Jerry Goldsmith, some of the compositions he comes up with amaze me" - Elliot Goldenthal

"Patton is one of my favourite scores, I think he is one of the best composers in Hollywood" - Leonard Rosenman

"Goldsmith is the number one composer working right now, he is open to new ideas and always inventing" - Elmer Bernstein

"Goldsmith is first-rate" - David Raksin

"I thought Chinatown was exquisite, I like a lot of Goldsmith's stuff" - Thomas Newman

In one part of his concert work City Noir, John Adams said that he meant to evoke the score to Chinatown citing the "great trumpet writing".

At an event, Williams selected Chinatown as one of the scores to play, citing how "atmospheric" the opening was.

"I think this is the pinnacle" - Davd Fincher on the Chinatown score

Steven Soderbergh was amazed that Goldsmith wrote Chinatown in just 10 days.

David Lynch mentioned that Chinatown was his favourite film score of all time.

Can anyone find more quotes?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2018 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Goldsmith was so respected that it's not difficult to find quotes from other composers. Irwin Bazelon's book Knowing the Score has interviews with several composers, most of which acknowledge Goldsmith. Off the top of my head: Alex North, Laurence Rosenthal, Elmer Bernstein, etc. From other sources Lalo Schifrin said that Patton was a favorite score. Morricone cited Papillon. Richard Rodney Bennett told me in an interview from the mid-seventies that Goldsmith was "a real composer." And on and on and on.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2018 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Lewya   (Member)

Thanks, but I am still interested in whatever quotes people can find. I think this thread can be a good place to try to collect everything.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2018 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I think (although it's been a while) I got the quote from Philip Glass for a Reporter piece on Goldsmith after his death. The other quotes are mostly new to me though--fascinating stuff!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2018 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

There's the famous Henry Mancini quote from his speech introducing Jerry Goldsmith for his award from the Society for the Preservation of Film Music: "...he has instilled two things in his colleagues in this town. One thing he does, he keeps us honest. And the second one is he scares the hell out of us."

Also, didn't Marco Beltrami make this quote in an FSM interview (I could be wrong about that...but I seem to recall that, maybe, it came from FSM...): "Without Jerry, film music would probably be in a different place than it is now. I think he, more than any other composer bridged the gap between the old Hollywood scoring style and the modern film composer."

Elmer Bernstein's quote (from the aborted Carrie Goldsmith biography of her father): “…If I were a producer or director and I was looking for someone to score a film, my first choice would be Jerry Goldsmith. Jerry is uncompromising in his drive for excellence, uncompromising in his bravery to experiment with other media. He is the kind of composer that makes a film.”

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2018 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

"Jerry Goldsmith is AWESOME!" - ME!big grinbig grinbig grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

"He's a GREAT customer! Always leaves a nice tip and the waiters LOVE him"

- The Outback Steakhouse Co -

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

Are there any legends that have spoken badly about him? Gary Kester once claimed that Rosenman called him a "second rate synth pop artist" sellout for turning to synths in the 80's. I haven't seen any other sources for this, but Rosenman, like Herrmann, was a bit of a shit-talker, so it wouldn't shock me.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

That's the reason I hated Rosenman.... arrogant son of a bitch.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

How about a couple of in-depth interviews with living legends covering their love of Goldsmith?

http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/824863-odyssey-interviews-leonard-slatkin
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/827526-odyssey-interviews-cliff-eidelman

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY



You said that?!

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY



You said that?!


I did. You can look it up.
Brm

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

That's the reason I hated Rosenman.... arrogant son of a bitch.

I hate him cuz his music sucks!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY



You said that?!


I did. You can look it up.
Brm



I’m sorry - I typed “what”, but it came out as “that”.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Are there any legends that have spoken badly about him? Gary Kester once claimed that Rosenman called him a "second rate synth pop artist" sellout for turning to synths in the 80's. I haven't seen any other sources for this, but Rosenman, like Herrmann, was a bit of a shit-talker, so it wouldn't shock me.

I'd be very interested to get more information about that, as it does not sound quite right. I mean, Goldsmith has spoken highly of Rosenman (and composers are only human), and it would be odd for Rosenman to just call Goldsmith a "second rate synth pop artist" and leave it like that. Rosenman was both quite erudite and articulate, and I doubt he would just put Goldsmith into the "second rate" category.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

" The greatest composer to ever come out of Hollywood"
-Bruce R. Marshall : FILM SCORE MONTHLY



You said that?!


I did. You can look it up.
Brm



I’m sorry - I typed “what”, but it came out as “that”.


Say what?

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

How about a couple of in-depth interviews with living legends covering their love of Goldsmith?

http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/824863-odyssey-interviews-leonard-slatkin
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/827526-odyssey-interviews-cliff-eidelman

Yavar


Those were indeed both great interviews, Yavar! The Slatkin interview was particularly enlightening, I didn't know how much he admired Goldsmith and with such specificity.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)



I'd be very interested to get more information about that, as it does not sound quite right. I mean, Goldsmith has spoken highly of Rosenman (and composers are only human), and it would be odd for Rosenman to just call Goldsmith a "second rate synth pop artist" and leave it like that. Rosenman was both quite erudite and articulate, and I doubt he would just put Goldsmith into the "second rate" category.


I remember reading it in an issue of the Goldsmith Society magazine back in the mid-90s. The quote doesn't appear to be on the record anywhere, though. Considering how laudatory Rosenman was of Goldsmith when he was on the record, my guess is that it was either mis-attributed or taken out-of-context. Still, I'll never forget that infamous Starlog feature where he trashed the work of Poledouris (and also that of several directors with whom he'd been friends for years). Rosenman was a brilliant composer, but when discussing the work of his colleagues, he was the anti-John Williams.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Goldsmith has spoken highly of Rosenman (and composers are only human), and it would be odd for Rosenman to just call Goldsmith a "second rate synth pop artist" and leave it like that.

He was probably talking about Moroder

 
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