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Feb 7, 2019 - 2:40 PM
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kenisu3000
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I watched the 1973 romance JEREMY for the first time the other night and fell in love (no pun intended) with both the film and Lee Holdridge's score. This flick had me in its clutches right from the main titles, with a melancholy, nostalgic theme song ("Blue Balloon/The Hourglass Song") playing over the establishing shots of Jeremy's room. I looked into it and it turns out that Holdridge had nothing to do with the song, though I imagine the small handful of orchestral arrangements of its melody scattered throughout the movie were his doing.
I also found that possibly my favorite cue in the movie, which I originally took as another arrangement, is actually just the music track from the song, vocals removed. But on the soundtrack release (vinyl only, and holy cow does it need a re-release/expansion), what they did was, instead of leaving the instrumental as-is, they made up for the lack of vocals with an added instrument track (an alternating saxophone and oboe, as it sounds to my ears), so that the main melody isn't lost. I'm rarely fond of this practice, as they almost always seem to use an instrument I think jars with the rest of the song, and I want to hear the true instrumental beneath the vocals anyway.
But I'll get to my question. I know, from my many Japanese soundtrack CDs, that in Japan these are called mero'oke, or "melody orchestra" tracks. But I've also always wondered, what's the industry term for them in the English-speaking world?
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Aren't they just called "instrumentals"? I'm not entirely sure we're talking about the same thing... Sorry, I see you already used the term "instrumental", so it's not that.
So it's the term for a pre-existing track with an added overlay? I'm lost.
More comfortable talking about the LP, an old favourite of mine just because I was at the age when absolutely everything seemed brilliant. Kev McGann is currently unavailable, but I have left a message on his answer machine.
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Thanks for holding the fort in my absence Graham, but, like you, I have no idea what the word would be in English for the 'instrument replacing the vocal line' of a song or track.
But also like you, I can wax lyrical and extol the virtues of this lovely soundtrack score by maestro Lee Holdridge.
I played the LP constantly in my misspent youth, pining for lost loves that would never be and dreaming of running through fields of gold, naked, with Theresa May!
All those moments will be lost in time, like, tears in rain...
I wish someone would issue the LP to CD and find more music, including part 2 of the Cello Concerto!
Sublime.
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Feb 8, 2019 - 7:13 PM
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kenisu3000
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Aren't they just called "instrumentals"? I'm not entirely sure we're talking about the same thing... Sorry, I see you already used the term "instrumental", so it's not that.
So it's the term for a pre-existing track with an added overlay? I'm lost.
Sorry about the confusion. Basically, I'm talking about when a vocal song has its vocals removed so that only the music track remains (like in karaoke), but then receives an extra overlay of new instruments to reproduce the melody that was lost when the vocals were removed.
They probably are just called instrumentals (after all, the name of the vinyl's track I brought up refers to it as an instrumental). The reason I thought it was something else was because I was sure I'd seen "instrumental" used a bit more broadly in the past, perhaps to refer also to strict karaoke tracks. And now that I think about it, the Japanese CDs I mentioned do call these things instrumentals in the track names, and only refer to them as mero'oke in the liner notes. Maybe mero'oke specifically refers to the melody overlay by itself, not the whole instrumental song.
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I love seeing the love for JEREMY here, both the film and score. Incidentally, it seems like there might be more appreciation for it on the other side of the pond...I believe both Kev and Graham are both in Europe and I know that Mark Kermode is an outspoken champion of JEREMY.
Conversely, I was born and raised in the New York area, still live in the city, and am constantly telling cinephiles here about JEREMY, who have no idea what it is. The film is still largely unknown and quite a hidden gem in these parts, even with so much interest in all things '70s New York.
Just last night I played a track from the film on my friend Devon's invaluable radio show--Morricone Island--on WFMU. For this show, I curated only songs from what I call "Dirty Old New York":
http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/84153
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I too would love to see a release of this, any Lee Holdridge music releases I'm game.
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Have they still not released this score on CD yet?
C'mon, what's the friggin problem here.
Can't you see 5 people want it!!
Make that 6!
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It's 2020 and this score still ain't available on expanded CD!!
WTF
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EIGHT!!!!!!!
Well that's it then.
I expect the expanded CD release to be announced ANY TIME NOW!!!
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Back down to 7. I don't really want it that much anymore.
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Damn You, Watto!!!!
I'd just received a FAX from La La Land saying the EIGHT Pre-Order was the Kicker!
Now you gun and darn it, you weak nippled haggis, you.
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In a 2016 interview, Holdridge said he was a replacement composer on the film, but doesn't say who the original composer was or any further details. So even if a short score, if there was something recorded by the prior composer, it could be paired together.
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