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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2019 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Music For Fellini Part One 1952--1958 on El (Cherry Red). The sound is supposed to be bad, but there is so little music available from those first couple of Rota/Fellini films that I'm tempted.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Music For Fellini Part One 1952--1958 on El (Cherry Red). The sound is supposed to be bad, but there is so little music available from those first couple of Rota/Fellini films that I'm tempted.

Yep, I have it and play it regularly. The sound quality is pretty low (commensurate with the source) but after a track or two it improves and you don’t notice it. Not getting this because of the less than perfect sound would be like not watching Otto e Mezzo because it’s in black and white. It seems that it’s available at a low cost as well - nothing to lose!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

If you already have the correctly licensed two Legend CDs with FORTUNELLA, LA STRADA and LE NOTTI DI CABIRIA as well as the CAM CD with IL BIDONE from the 90s, there is no reason anymore to buy the El CD as they have just selected and ripped some tracks from there. It is all quite simple:

https://www.discogs.com/de/Nino-Rota-La-Strada-Le-Notti-Di-Cabiria/release/9838247
https://www.discogs.com/de/Nino-Rota-Nino-Rota-Film-Music/release/10343240
https://www.discogs.com/de/Nino-Rota-Il-Bidone/master/331560

Then they have added a bit of music from LO SCEICCO BIANCO and I VITELLONI directly from the films themselves. In the case of LO SCEICCO BIANCO just the Main Title whereas it seems that for I VITELLONI they unfortunately took mostly the carnival source music from the middle part of the film as you can hear it for yourself in those long excerpts:
https://boomkat.com/products/music-for-fellini-part-one-1952-58

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Stefan, Thank you so much for your detailed description. I do have the La Strada/Cabiria cd, so I don't need those tracks. I was looking for Rota scoring from lo sceicco bianco and I Vitelloni, and it sounds like that Cherry Red does not have much. I do have the Savina 1974 recordings of those themes, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Indeed, there is quite a lot of beautiful music in I VITELLONI which would really deserve a re-recording. Of course, the original tapes from that time are certainly long lost, but we always only get about 2-3 minutes from I VITELLONI in re-recordings, but nothing more. And the new Riccardo Chailly CD doesn´t even offer anything from I VITELLONI at all which I found quite disappointing. Just nobody makes the effort to record a really long suite with at least 15-20 minutes from I VITELLONI and I don´t get it why. Instead we always get the same material from the later Fellini/Rota films - for which the original recordings exist anyway - over and over again.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Stefan, I wish there would be re-recordings of those earlier scores. That there isn't is just like companies who record the most obvious hits from composers, but not the most needed stuff. Yes, I know, they need to make money. Still, the Rota/Fellini brand is strong enough to warrant longer suites on those first two films.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Stefan, I wish there would be re-recordings of those earlier scores. That there isn't is just like companies who record the most obvious hits from composers, but not the most needed stuff. Yes, I know, they need to make money. Still, the Rota/Fellini brand is strong enough to warrant longer suites on those first two films.


I’ve heard some of the Chailly recordings and for me they don’t capture the charm of the original recordings. Too slick, somehow, maybe too large an orchestra, not sure what it is. I’d rather hear the rough-sounding mono original than a modern version with less heart.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2019 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

For those first 2 Fellini scores I'd like to hear ANYTHING; that's the point. I always prefer the original because these orchestral re-rerecords don't do justice to the jazz/pop elements in the originals. But, if the original scores for the first 2 films are primarily orchestral, and if the original tapes are gone, then by all means I'd love a re-recording.

 
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