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 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Score release I mean.
There's never been an official release of the end credits as the appear in the film and if I remember correctly, people believe the original 1981 Varese mastering that appears on the LP and 1989 CD to be superior to the later 2000 expanded rerelease.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Yes. The last edition included some nice extra tracks, but I would love to have a definitive version with those gloomy end credits as heard in the film.

If someone released the original untouched cues, complete, in chronological order sans dialogue and without tinkering by Howarth, I’d be all over it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Yep.
One I will buy endlessly.

Keep Ford's sausagey fingers away (and Howarth too...sorry) & we have a deal.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Yes. The last edition included some nice extra tracks, but I would love to have a definitive version with those gloomy end credits as heard in the film.

If someone released the original untouched cues, complete, in chronological order sans dialogue and without tinkering by Howarth, I’d be all over it.


FYI if you go to alanhowarth.com, you'll find a new 2 CD set of ESCAPE FROM NY there that has been remastered and contains both the original album version and the later version as well newly remastered.

If you don't like the dialog they can be programmed out since they are separate tracks, for those who can figure out how to do that.

Also as I recall the end title on the film is just the main title repeated.

https://alanhowarth.com/product/escape-from-new-york-expance-soundtrack-cd/


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Yep.
One I will buy endlessly.

Keep Ford's sausagey fingers away (and Howarth too...sorry) & we have a deal.


Hey now, the only fingers acceptable to make fun of here are my own sea pickles.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Yes. The last edition included some nice extra tracks, but I would love to have a definitive version with those gloomy end credits as heard in the film.

If someone released the original untouched cues, complete, in chronological order sans dialogue and without tinkering by Howarth, I’d be all over it.


FYI if you go to alanhowarth.com, you'll find a new 2 CD set of ESCAPE FROM NY there that has been remastered and contains both the original album version and the later version as well newly remastered.

If you don't like the dialog they can be programmed out since they are separate tracks, for those who can figure out how to do that.

Also as I recall the end title on the film is just the main title repeated.

https://alanhowarth.com/product/escape-from-new-york-expance-soundtrack-cd/


Ford A. Thaxton


I did see that Alan has a new 2 Disc but assumed there was no remastering.

And personally I've always made a copy of the Main Titles and stuck it at the end as an End Titles... but I don't think the score in the film is exactly that?
Double checking... it's on Prime right now.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Yep.
One I will buy endlessly.

Keep Ford's sausagey fingers away (and Howarth too...sorry) & we have a deal.


Hey now, the only fingers acceptable to make fun of here are my own sea pickles.


Haha, cheers Tom!

Taking a look with MUCH trepidation at the latest link, release for this seminal work. MUCH trepidation and a firmly closed wallet....

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Yes. The last edition included some nice extra tracks, but I would love to have a definitive version with those gloomy end credits as heard in the film.

If someone released the original untouched cues, complete, in chronological order sans dialogue and without tinkering by Howarth, I’d be all over it.


FYI if you go to alanhowarth.com, you'll find a new 2 CD set of ESCAPE FROM NY there that has been remastered and contains both the original album version and the later version as well newly remastered.

If you don't like the dialog they can be programmed out since they are separate tracks, for those who can figure out how to do that.

Also as I recall the end title on the film is just the main title repeated.

https://alanhowarth.com/product/escape-from-new-york-expance-soundtrack-cd/


Ford A. Thaxton


I did see that Alan has a new 2 Disc but assumed there was no remastering.

And personally I've always made a copy of the Main Titles and stuck it at the end as an End Titles... but I don't think the score in the film is exactly that?
Double checking... it's on Prime right now.


As I recall, James Nelson at DIGITAL OUTLAND remastered the whole thing for him.

it's also a factory produced 2-CD set, not a CD-R.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

If you don't like the dialog they can be programmed out since they are separate tracks, for those who can figure out how to do that.

It's not that simple. Some of the dialogue/sfx bleed over onto the music. You may cut out the dialogue tracks, but you're still starting the next track where the previous left off. It's sounds jarring.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

If you don't like the dialog they can be programmed out since they are separate tracks, for those who can figure out how to do that.

It's not that simple. Some of the dialogue/sfx bleed over onto the music. You may cut out the dialogue tracks, but you're still starting the next track where the previous left off. It's sounds jarring.


If you could be a bit more specific that would be helpful

I know that when we did the earlier SILVA version I think there was ONE TRACK that overlapped slightly, the rest were on their own, as a recall Alan's version fixed that little issue that is available from his site.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

What about that Silva 2LP from 2015 I'm seeing.
Discogs has that mastered at Digital Outland.

https://www.discogs.com/John-Carpenter-In-Association-With-Alan-Howarth-John-Carpenters-Escape-From-New-York-Original-Film-S/release/9945623

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Micki Moreau   (Member)

I've ordered several items from Alan Howarth's site and though they take a while to ship, you always get your item.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Yes. The last edition included some nice extra tracks, but I would love to have a definitive version with those gloomy end credits as heard in the film.

If someone released the original untouched cues, complete, in chronological order sans dialogue and without tinkering by Howarth, I’d be all over it.


FYI if you go to alanhowarth.com, you'll find a new 2 CD set of ESCAPE FROM NY there that has been remastered and contains both the original album version and the later version as well newly remastered.

If you don't like the dialog they can be programmed out since they are separate tracks, for those who can figure out how to do that.

Also as I recall the end title on the film is just the main title repeated.

https://alanhowarth.com/product/escape-from-new-york-expance-soundtrack-cd/


Ford A. Thaxton


Thanks, Ford. I’ll check that out. It’s true that the dialogue tracks are separate, but the segues sometimes give them an abrupt beginning or end.

The main titles are almost the same, but the end titles continue on into a gloomy sustain that trail off much differently for roughly 20-30 seconds. It may seem trivial, but lots of us are still craving it.

Perhaps they were the same recorded track but just mixed differently by the music editor at the time? It makes sense since it seems they recorded the “Snake Shake” as the intended end titles but then changed their minds and went with the main theme reprise.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

John might answer that if posed to him on Facebook or Twitter. It's a little tricky to get a response from him but I have once or twice.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Listening to it again, it does seem to be a different composition at least in the last minute or so. There’s a descending synth line that does not appear in the main titles.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2020 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

Listening to it again, it does seem to be a different composition at least in the last minute or so. There’s a descending synth line that does not appear in the main titles.

Yeah. I've tracked Main Titles as the last track for years but it never feels quite right.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Here is the music for the closing titles. Seems slightly different to the opening titles. A pity it wasn't included on any release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG72KxRSNuU

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Here is the music for the closing titles. Seems slightly different to the opening titles. A pity it wasn't included on any release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG72KxRSNuU


That's definitely a cover, although a pretty good one.

Here's the original version of the end titles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3VuNsD4Pgk

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)

Here is a high quality version of the end credits.

https://youtu.be/FOHV1cRkw9w

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2020 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Here's some dialogue. And here's how to program it out. There's a lesson there somewhere...

 
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