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 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   Stovepipe46   (Member)

For those who can view it this great undervalued film is being shown on BBC2 on Monday 2.55pm. From the timings it appears to be the uncut version. What's not to like about this movie. The ever beautiful Ingrid Bergman as star, Victor Fleming as director and the great Hugo Friedhofer producing one of his greatest scores.
View this if you can it's a rare treat especially as the DVD/Blu Ray is so expensive (if you can find it?)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Where exactly have you been looking for the DVD/Blu-ray? On Amazon, the Kino Lorber Blu-ray is on there for $19.99, which is pretty cheap if you ask me.

https://www.amazon.com/Joan-Arc-Blu-ray-Ingrid-Bergman/dp/B077YFL76C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=joan+of+arc+blu+ray&qid=1594553620&sprefix=joan+of+arc+bl&sr=8-1

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   DOGBELLE   (Member)

I find it gets a little talky
When I first saw the movie I was surprised to see Ward Bond as a French knight.
But he looked great in his armer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2020 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

For those who can view it this great undervalued film is being shown on BBC2 on Monday 2.55pm. From the timings it appears to be the uncut version. What's not to like about this movie. The ever beautiful Ingrid Bergman as star, Victor Fleming as director and the great Hugo Friedhofer producing one of his greatest scores.
View this if you can it's a rare treat especially as the DVD/Blu Ray is so expensive (if you can find it?)


and it's preceded by a 35 minute Ingrid documentary.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2020 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   George Flaxman   (Member)

It's a sumptuous colour print, the score is highly orchestral but without a noticeable melody. Interestingly the Musical Arrangements credit is by Jerome Moross ?. I'd never previously realised.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2020 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Stovepipe46   (Member)

I've had to record this because I had to go out (watching tv in afternoon is always awkward) so I'm looking forward to watching this tonight.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2020 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Hugo Friedhofer's score to JOAN OF ARC ranks extremely high on my most wanted list for a new recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2020 - 4:23 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

It's a sumptuous colour print, the score is highly orchestral but without a noticeable melody. Interestingly the Musical Arrangements credit is by Jerome Moross ?. I'd never previously realised.

Yeah, nice rich colour & a sharp & very good picture, but oh the dirt! Storms of it throughout the film.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

I hope board member friedhofer is not mad at me quoting this absolutely fantastic video/piece in(to) this thread...

The "Gothic Prelude" re-recording from Joan of Arc, is now on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bgO11YT5NQ

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Hugo Friedhofer's score to JOAN OF ARC ranks extremely high on my most wanted list for a new recording.

One of my Top 5 Friedhofer scores (after "One Eyed Jacks", "The Best Years Of Our Lives", "The Young Lions" and "The Secret Invasion") and one of two on the list that isn't on C.D.. I'm still waiting for a World Premiere Recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Hugo Friedhofer's score to JOAN OF ARC ranks extremely high on my most wanted list for a new recording.





Best chance is if Chandos decides to give us a Friedhofer CD in their Film Music Series.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The "Gothic Prelude" re-recording from Joan of Arc, is now on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bgO11YT5NQ


Lovely. Speaking of Moross, this reminds me of his WAR LORD score. Coincidentally he was the orchestrator for JOAN and the completely different-sounding noir SOUND OF FURY which is the top of my Hugo wish list (even as re-recording).

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Oooh, I still desperately want a complete version of The War Lord, too. A re-recording might not be too likely but maybe the original tracks survive in the Universal vaults, since it's for a 60s film?

Would be great if Chandos did Friedhofer's Joan of Arc... don't see much reason to expect they would, though. The last time they released a new volume in their film music series was mid-2019 (Gerard Schurmann), and that was a compilation. When was the last time they recorded a full score by a Hollywood composer?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

So glad that the Gothic Prelude piece is online again. I was very disappointed when the Friedhofer website the piece premiered on stopped working and making the clip inaccessible (I foolishly didn't think to download it).

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Same. Would still be great to get a lossless version.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


Would be great if Chandos did Friedhofer's Joan of Arc... don't see much reason to expect they would, though. The last time they released a new volume in their film music series was mid-2019 (Gerard Schurmann), and that was a compilation. When was the last time they recorded a full score by a Hollywood composer?



Their recordings of The Sea Hawk, Citizen Kane and The Sea Wolf were extensive.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Their recordings of The Sea Hawk, Citizen Kane and The Sea Wolf were extensive.

Yes (though The Sea Hawk of course still omitted a great deal of material due to the length of the score). And they were recorded in 2007, 2009, and 2005, respectively. Have they done anything other than a compilation in the past 12 years?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Their recordings of The Sea Hawk, Citizen Kane and The Sea Wolf were extensive.

Yes (though The Sea Hawk of course still omitted a great deal of material due to the length of the score). And they were recorded in 2007, 2009, and 2005, respectively. Have they done anything other than a compilation in the past 12 years?

Yavar





Seven years ago they gave us over half-an-hour of Rozsa's Jungle Book.
I wonder if that Jungle Book recording would ever have been made if they'd held an online vote at FSM and pitted it against a Goldsmith score to decide which one to go ahead with? Probably not.
A similar half-an-hour of Joan of Arc would be ok by me.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Seven years ago they gave us over half-an-hour of Rozsa's Jungle Book.

That was just Rozsa's half hour orchestral concert suite that had been recorded before, if I'm not mistaken. Probably cost a lot less to just rent an existing concert piece rather than having to reconstruct the score. Don't really see it as remotely the same situation as producing a premiere recording of even part of an unreleased film score.

I wonder if that Jungle Book recording would ever have been made if they'd held an online vote at FSM and pitted it against a Goldsmith score to decide which one to go ahead with? Probably not.

Based on what? I'm sure they would have. Rozsa has more cache with classical music fans than Goldsmith. Intrada has a different customer base than Chandos. But I for one really wished they had focused their resources more on Rozsa scores that had never been recorded before — that would have, as I said, been more expensive though.

A similar half-an-hour of Joan of Arc would be ok by me.

And also cost a lot more than the pre-existing Jungle Book orchestral suite (which doesn't have choir like Joan of Arc...unless you want the choir omitted). But sure, I'd also rather have half an hour of Joan of Arc rather than none at all, if that were an option. But I still doubt you'll find a label (including Chandos) to take it on. Friedhofer didn't even produce (m)any concert works, unlike Rozsa, Korngold, Schurmann, Alwyn, Parker, Shostakovich, and many other composers whose film work Chandos has recorded.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2021 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

The "Gothic Prelude" re-recording from Joan of Arc, is now on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bgO11YT5NQ


Can anyone tell us the conductor's name and orchestra of this wonderful piece?

Many Thanks,
Jay

 
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