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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

No CD = no sale
No CD player in a car = sale !


big grin

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 2:53 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


I do, however, seem to have a problem with listening via Bluetooth. For some reason, I think there is a difference in sound quality although I will accept that the perceived difference in quality is purely in my mind.


Oh, there may definitely be a noticeable difference in sound quality when connected via Bluetooth. There are different Bluetooth codecs with very different sound quality. Codecs like SBC work with practically everything, but sound quality is heavily compromised, codecs like aptX Adapitive will give you good sound, but is usually only found in better and audio oriented hardware. For a codec to be used, all devices (say, smartphone and car hifi) need to support the codec, so usually the "lowest common denominator" codec is used.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Wouldn't be without it. I've been listening to Jonathan Sheffer's OMEN 4: THE AWAKENING in the car this morning.

Sure, I could have copied the CD to my desktop hard drive and then transferred the files to a USB drive. Or - just take the CD with me.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 3:51 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)


I do, however, seem to have a problem with listening via Bluetooth. For some reason, I think there is a difference in sound quality although I will accept that the perceived difference in quality is purely in my mind.


Oh, there may definitely be a noticeable difference in sound quality when connected via Bluetooth. There are different Bluetooth codecs with very different sound quality. Codecs like SBC work with practically everything, but sound quality is heavily compromised, codecs like aptX Adapitive will give you good sound, but is usually only found in better and audio oriented hardware. For a codec to be used, all devices (say, smartphone and car hifi) need to support the codec, so usually the "lowest common denominator" codec is used.


Interesting! Perhaps that is why I concluded years ago that the SQ from CDrs is superior to that streamed via Bluetooth from my mobile/cell phone (and, of course, from the iPod)

On the matter of track info being displayed, I was amused to find that some CDrs carried such, others did not. Yes, the streaming options gave more (and I think consistent) info but ...

... do you really want such appearing as you're driving? However much you keep attention on your driving, there will come that moment when you'll glance at the moving characters to identify what that piece of music is ... and ...

I wasn't convinced this is a benefit (at least not until we're driving autonomous vehicles).

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 4:28 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



Interesting! Perhaps that is why I concluded years ago that the SQ from CDrs is superior to that streamed via Bluetooth from my mobile/cell phone (and, of course, from the iPod)


Yes, that may very well have been a accurate observation. There are different bluetooth codecs just as there are different audio formats, so there are SBC, aptX (HD), LDAC etc... , just as there are MP3, AAC, FLAC/ALAC etc..


On the matter of track info being displayed, I was amused to find that some CDrs carried such, others did not. Yes, the streaming options gave more (and I think consistent) info but ...

... do you really want such appearing as you're driving? However much you keep attention on your driving, there will come that moment when you'll glance at the moving characters to identify what that piece of music is ... and ...

I wasn't convinced this is a benefit (at least not until we're driving autonomous vehicles).


I know what you mean, but first of all, I can easily turn off any display I do not want or need in the car, and secondly, the correct metadata and cover art implementation makes it possible to see at a glance what is playing, without having to actually "read" the information. May also depend on how the display is integrated in your car. Having said that, with the albums on a USB stick I can switch tracks or albums just with a single click. Changing a CD while driving is definitely much more distracting and much less recommended.

However, for me, the most important benefit of USB listening is simply that I have a selection of a few hundred albums in my car at any time. So whenever I have to drive anywhere, there is no need for me to first consider "gee, what music do I pick to take with me".

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Blue Tooth this, iCloud that. Just give me a damn CD player, it works every time without any fuss or drop off in quality.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Blue Tooth this, iCloud that. Just give me a damn CD player, it works every time without any fuss or drop off in quality.

Ha, not so fast: CDs can fall, scratch, skip, warp, bend,.... rather more fuss than files. :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   cinemel1255   (Member)

My last 2 cars do not have CD players. I do miss it. However. I now figured out how to use car’s Bluetooth to listen to music on my phone. It’s just fine. I’m able to have lots of music on the phone and it’s easy to access whatever I want to listen to. The sound in the car is also quite good. I especially enjoy it when I take a long drive on my way to Florida.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

I have USB connection for a small mp3 player that contains a small selection of scores, however I also have an mp3 capable CD player.

I have some CDs that I can grab, but lately the mp3 CDs with some grouped score selections are often better for taking road trips, and my original CDs are safe.

Depends on mood, time, and what I have where as to the option I go with.

I maintain the same sound quality in the car, and the Subaru has a pretty good sound system for me.

CD players are becoming much rarer, so I'll be using BlueTooth or USB and placing my music on portable CD players.

Until then, as a matter of tradition, I will always play my new CDs in the car for a first listen to a given score.

I love having so many options. smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Deadwalker   (Member)

I wish I had a CD player. I have all my albums ripped and can out them on a Flash Drive but my albums play out of order. Instead of playing tracks 1 to 10 it will play 8, then 5 then 1 etc..

I need a FAt32 sorter for Mac but cannot find one.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I wish I had a CD player. I have all my albums ripped and can out them on a Flash Drive but my albums play out of order. Instead of playing tracks 1 to 10 it will play 8, then 5 then 1 etc..

That's odd, but might be a matter of tagging and/or playpack system/equipment. I don't have such issues. (Except for a preliminary Twonky Sever, but that's a Twonky fault... Twonky just sorts all cues alphabetically! Sheesh, that's idiotic.)

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Deadwalker   (Member)

I wish I had a CD player. I have all my albums ripped and can out them on a Flash Drive but my albums play out of order. Instead of playing tracks 1 to 10 it will play 8, then 5 then 1 etc..

That's odd, but might be a matter of tagging and/or playpack system/equipment. I don't have such issues. (Except for a preliminary Twonky Sever, but that's a Twonky fault... Twonky just sorts all cues alphabetically! Sheesh, that's idiotic.)


I use to use Drivesort on my window's work computer but since Covid happened I don't have access to that.

The albums and track numbers when I plug my flash drive into my computer are in order when I look at on my mac but when I plug into my Car they don't show in order.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)


I do, however, seem to have a problem with listening via Bluetooth. For some reason, I think there is a difference in sound quality although I will accept that the perceived difference in quality is purely in my mind.


Oh, there may definitely be a noticeable difference in sound quality when connected via Bluetooth. There are different Bluetooth codecs with very different sound quality. Codecs like SBC work with practically everything, but sound quality is heavily compromised, codecs like aptX Adapitive will give you good sound, but is usually only found in better and audio oriented hardware. For a codec to be used, all devices (say, smartphone and car hifi) need to support the codec, so usually the "lowest common denominator" codec is used.


Excellent. Good to know. Then maybe I'm not going crazy.

Maybe I should start listening to those voices in my head again.....

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   petek66   (Member)


A couple of CDs jammed in my CD changer in 2015 (I remember one was "Tomorrowland") and Toyota told me
they couldn't get it out and I'd have to replace the entire $1000 navigation system. Really?! So I switched
to iPhone & bluetooth and haven't looked back. R.I.P. Tomorrowland.

The only complaint is when I get a new CD in the mail (or formerly at a store) I can't just
pop it in and start listening I have to rip it, backup and sync to the phone.

 
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