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 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Hi, everyone.

Presently preparing materials for a webinar presentation on the music of "Jaws" and need help in identifying the various themes John Williams composed for the film (other than the obvious shark material) as different sources I've consulted don't seem to be in agreement as to what the various themes represent.

First, which theme is the "Orca" theme? I assume that it is the arioso-like (my description) melody heard in the MT of "Jaws 2 " when the divers come across the wreckage of Quint's boat (1:41 mark). At the end of the first film this theme is heard on the piccolo along with quotations (in augmentation) of a sprightly theme, one with a march-like rhythm, which I also associate with the Orca and the shark hunter trio (Quint, Brody, Hooper). There's also a kind of "urgency motif" (almost like an invention subject) that's used at times when there's increased activity aboard the boat (sometimes used as a counterpoint to another theme). One reviewer suggests that one of the aforementioned themes represents Amity Island. I'm just not sure about any of it (and I want to get this right).

Has Williams, in some interview, ever definitively stated which theme is which (as he did in the original "Star Wars" OST sleeve notes)? Perhaps someone did an analysis of this in a FSM print issue?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I assume the urgency motif is the shark cage fugue theme. I think Williams basically discussed this in terms of an "anti-shark theme" which underscored the trio's actions taken against the shark. The end theme material could be considered the Orca theme, and there's also a sea shanty theme for Quint that's the basis for the "Out to Sea" cue...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Hi, Jeff. Thanks. So it sounds like the tune in the "Jaws 2" MT is actually Quint's "shanty theme," not the theme for the boat. In certain cues the material seems interchangeable. In the "Jaws' ET you hear a fragment of one theme (in the strings) and the other tune in the piccolo and solo horn. From what I understand there's also a quote of the shanty "Spanish Lady," also associated with Quint (this in two of the "Quint" titles).

Does the Intrada expanded release shed light on this? Seems to be out of print.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Hi, everyone.

Presently preparing materials for a webinar presentation on the music of "Jaws" and need help in identifying the various themes John Williams composed for the film (other than the obvious shark material) as different sources I've consulted don't seem to be in agreement as to what the various themes represent.

First, which theme is the "Orca" theme? I assume that it is the arioso-like (my description) melody heard in the MT of "Jaws 2 " when the divers come across the wreckage of Quint's boat (1:41 mark). At the end of the first film this theme is heard on the piccolo along with quotations (in augmentation) of a sprightly theme, one with a march-like rhythm, which I also associate with the Orca and the shark hunter trio (Quint, Brody, Hooper). There's also a kind of "urgency motif" (almost like an invention subject) that's used at times when there's increased activity aboard the boat (sometimes used as a counterpoint to another theme). One reviewer suggests that one of the aforementioned themes represents Amity Island. I'm just not sure about any of it (and I want to get this right).

Has Williams, in some interview, ever definitively stated which theme is which (as he did in the original "Star Wars" OST sleeve notes)? Perhaps someone did an analysis of this in a FSM print issue?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.


You might want to check out the John Williams Signature Edition full score of "Suite from Jaws" published by Hal Leonard Music. It contains The Shark Theme, Out to Sea and The Shark Cage Fugue.
It con

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

Hi, everyone.

Presently preparing materials for a webinar presentation on the music of "Jaws" and need help in identifying the various themes John Williams composed for the film (other than the obvious shark material) as different sources I've consulted don't seem to be in agreement as to what the various themes represent.

First, which theme is the "Orca" theme? I assume that it is the arioso-like (my description) melody heard in the MT of "Jaws 2 " when the divers come across the wreckage of Quint's boat (1:41 mark). At the end of the first film this theme is heard on the piccolo along with quotations (in augmentation) of a sprightly theme, one with a march-like rhythm, which I also associate with the Orca and the shark hunter trio (Quint, Brody, Hooper). There's also a kind of "urgency motif" (almost like an invention subject) that's used at times when there's increased activity aboard the boat (sometimes used as a counterpoint to another theme). One reviewer suggests that one of the aforementioned themes represents Amity Island. I'm just not sure about any of it (and I want to get this right).

Has Williams, in some interview, ever definitively stated which theme is which (as he did in the original "Star Wars" OST sleeve notes)? Perhaps someone did an analysis of this in a FSM print issue?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.


check this website, https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/

Maurizio Caschetto might be able to help you

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

The sea shanty theme plays as a B theme for the Orca theme in "The Great Shark Chase" so they're basically parts of the same idea, Quint and his ship.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

The sea shanty theme plays as a B theme for the Orca theme in "The Great Shark Chase" so they're basically parts of the same idea, Quint and his ship.

For some reason, Jeff, I associate the cantabile tune heard in "Blown to Bits" with Brody (Quint at this point of the story having met his demise). This is the same melody that's heard in the MT of "Jaws 2" and what I believed to be the "Orca Theme." In the end title of the first film there's a hint of the shanty/hornpipe theme followed by the Brady/Orca theme played on piccolo, then with French horns, followed by a fragment of the shanty/hornpipe tune on solo trumpet. But your theory that one is simply a 'B' theme makes sense (like the "Raiders" theme, two good, useable pieces of material combined, but unlike Raiders, often presented as separate musical entities).

 
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