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 Posted:   Jun 15, 2021 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

To add: Apple just released a beta-version of their Android iTunes app, which indeed supports lossless and Atmos.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Thanks to this thread, I have upgraded my Apple Music and iTunes, saving all of my music to the Cloud (which will help should I suffer another fire - Zod forbid). Having a crap ton of music I wouldn't be exposed to otherwise is really nice. Is it Lossless? Who knows? Since a lot of my music is sent over Bluetooth to speakers or headphones, it ain't gonna be lossless anyway. I just know it sounds great to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks to this thread, I have upgraded my Apple Music and iTunes, saving all of my music to the Cloud (which will help should I suffer another fire - Zod forbid). Having a crap ton of music I wouldn't be exposed to otherwise is really nice. Is it Lossless? Who knows? Since a lot of my music is sent over Bluetooth to speakers or headphones, it ain't gonna be lossless anyway. I just know it sounds great to me.

Do they update old mp3 files that you purchased to lossless formats?

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Do they update old mp3 files that you purchased to lossless formats?

No. The lossless option doesn't include iTunes Match -- unfortunately.

Only the music that is available lossless regularly will be lossless. With anomalies. For instance: my uploaded Ron Jones box was lossy as an upload. But the music is already available as lossless stream. However, I uploaded it as one 14-disc album. The albums were made available as separate album, so iTunes didn't recognize it as being the same music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

To add: Apple just released a beta-version of their Android iTunes app, which indeed supports lossless and Atmos.

Ok, I think I found it, thanks! I couldn't find the folder where the files are downloaded however.

Edit: very few Itunes exclusive soundtracks are in lossless, actually. I could only find one by Luis Bacalov, while 7 others were all AAC.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

Apple Music basically uses two formats, AAC, which is the successor of MP3 (and lossy) and ALAC, which is the equivalent to FLAC on Apple devices.

BOTH of these use the ending "MP4", which can be confusing.


They do both use the same file extension, but it's actually ".m4a" not ".mp4".

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Apple Music basically uses two formats, AAC, which is the successor of MP3 (and lossy) and ALAC, which is the equivalent to FLAC on Apple devices.

BOTH of these use the ending "MP4", which can be confusing.


They do both use the same file extension, but it's actually ".m4a" not ".mp4".


Yes, you're right of course, thanks! I'll correct it up there to avoid confusion.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2021 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)


Interesting. How do you intend to play the files?

Asking because in my setup it makes little sense to play lossless files from my computer. Not sure how Apple is going about it, but if you can get lossless only via their streaming app (and not their store), presumably you'd be tied to listen to it via the program on your computer (or smartphone).


I do have good headphones. I would say that the latest in-built soundcards for Dell are fine, which wasn't the case a few years ago. That said, all my music is stored in FLAC and I otherwise agree with you: I usually employ a dedicated music device with a better soundcard. Apple Music was only the last resort option for albums that are not available otherwise, which is only about 8 soundtracks as far as I am aware of. I don't have plans to use streams otherwise (or only for sound samples).

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2021 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • I don't know why but the word "lossless" sounds bad even when I know it's good.

    It's a double negative, and therefore an aberration of syntax and slang. It must be destroyed.

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