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Where is "Phantom Of The Paradise"?
That's the greatest movie ever made.
Pfft.
Lists.
Hooray on the PotP shout-out!
No Terrence Malick or Robert Altman films to be seen on the 100. And many other missing greats. The trouble is film history is over100 years old now and there's such a wide variety of cinema to choose from. We're all experts now, and 50 different thoughtful movie enthusiasts could come up with 50 wildly different Best 100 lists - all valid for that person. Just what is consensus anymore if we have so much to choose from so many eras?
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lol, I know where you're coming from, Winslow.
There's also the question re the future of cinema - which I define as the exhibition of major films on a large projected screen with an audience. With the rise of TV serials and recent feature films displaying a lot of made-for-TV qualities, can "cinema" as we knew it in the last century cease to exist?
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Dec 2, 2022 - 4:00 AM
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Rozsaphile
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The trouble is film history is over100 years old now and there's such a wide variety of cinema to choose from. We're all experts now, and 50 different thoughtful movie enthusiasts could come up with 50 wildly different Best 100 lists - all valid for that person. Just what is consensus anymore if we have so much to choose from so many eras?
Have to disagree with you there. The novel has been around for longer than the cinema, yet any comparable survey would certainly include Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary, The Brothers Karamazov, Moby-Dick, etc., and books by Austen, Dickens, Faulkner . . . Critical consensus is surely possible. It is equally certain that the consensus will change over time.
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Had I cast a vote on this poll, I probably would have been one of those who voted for Vertigo. That film was essentially my gateway film to Hitchcock and classic films in general, so I have a special fondness for Vertigo. I must admit that Jeanne Dielman did nothing for me the one time I saw it.
And yes, Solium, the lack of animation (particularly Snow White) is appalling.
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How can you not have one Disney animated film on the list? Snow White anyone?!
or Sleeping Beauty or Pinnochio or Bambi
All worthy choices (with the first being my personal favorite). Though Snow White at least should have been on there as we wouldn’t have the few animated films that are on the list if it weren’t for Snow White. Heck, Sergei Eisenstein himself supposedly called it the greatest film ever made if that counts for anything.
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Dec 3, 2022 - 2:21 AM
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Rameau
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Vertigo is one of the most overrated films ever, not even the best Hitchcock film by a long shot.
Is it a good film? Yes. Number 2 of all time? Nonsense.
Out of 1639 voters, 90% of them must be 70 years old or older.
Well, I have no way of knowing, but I'm not so sure about that. If that was the case, then would Jeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975) have come first? (no, I haven't heard of it either). The list is very international, & quite a few big & well known English speaking films have dropped out from 2012. Just a few that have gone:
Godfather 2
Raging Bull
Touch Of Evil
Rio Bravo
Nashville
Chinatown
Lawrence Of Arabia
The Wild Bunch
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
I think they'd still be there if the voters were oldies. But...it is just a list, it means nothing really.
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