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 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

From a non-spoiler review of the new season at TrekCore.com:

"In addition, composer Jeff Russo has been replaced by Stephen Barton for Season 3, whose score is more traditionally bombastic — and riffs heavily on all kinds of previous Star Trek themes to great effect."

and from TrekMovie.com:

"The score by Stephen Barton is spectacular, propulsive, and energetic, and honors the rich history of the great Trek composers such as Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, Cliff Eidleman, and even the less great Leonard Rosenman. His music also rectifies the single greatest misstep of the Berman/Lauritson era of milquetoast, minimalist, easy listening scores in TNG’s post-Ron Jones years."

I am looking forward to what Stephen Barton has for us!

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

There's a thread talking about this, also linking to a video of part of Barton's score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

I've heard elsewhere that the titles theme for this season is Goldsmith's Star Trek First Contact theme. For my money, that theme is the single greatest Star Trek theme Goldsmith wrote and so I'm thrilled if true.

Chirs

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I mean, that would be nice, but I have to suggest: Why that theme? That's a catch-all theme for FC. Wouldn't a better theme have been an updated grand-scale arrangement of Dennis McCarthy's rejected theme to "Star Trek: The Next Generation", which was still used in season one episodes and became what fans called "Picard's Theme"? Even the woodwind theme from the episode "The Inner Light" would be far far FAR more suiting.

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Can't wait to see and hear this - thanks for this info. Even more excited.

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Here it is:
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=6&forumID=1&threadID=135464&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2023 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   HAL 2000   (Member)

I mean, that would be nice, but I have to suggest: Why that theme? That's a catch-all theme for FC. Wouldn't a better theme have been an updated grand-scale arrangement of Dennis McCarthy's rejected theme to "Star Trek: The Next Generation", which was still used in season one episodes and became what fans called "Picard's Theme"? Even the woodwind theme from the episode "The Inner Light" would be far far FAR more suiting.

That rejected McCarthy theme was just horrendous. More Spaceballs than Star Trek.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2023 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I mean, that would be nice, but I have to suggest: Why that theme? That's a catch-all theme for FC. Wouldn't a better theme have been an updated grand-scale arrangement of Dennis McCarthy's rejected theme to "Star Trek: The Next Generation", which was still used in season one episodes and became what fans called "Picard's Theme"? Even the woodwind theme from the episode "The Inner Light" would be far far FAR more suiting.

That rejected McCarthy theme was just horrendous. More Spaceballs than Star Trek.


Absolutely agreed. When it popped up in cues it worked, but the full theme is... not great.

Personally, I'm sick of new scores "honoring" previous entries by reusing material from them. Look at the first ten Trek movies. Five different (primary) composers among them, and each composer cooked up their own thematic material to great effect. They referenced Courage's material here and there, but the themes to the scores were unique to the composers writing them. I'm sick of callbacks of any sort in reboots though, so maybe that's coloring my take.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2023 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)



That rejected McCarthy theme was just horrendous. More Spaceballs than Star Trek.


I don't think it was all that bad, just more "Superman" than "Star Trek."

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2023 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

I was at the event on Thursday and enjoyed the episodes and the scores heard! Im looking forward to the release of the score!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2023 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I was at the event on Thursday and enjoyed the episodes and the scores heard! Im looking forward to the release of the score!

Is is true that they reused the First Contact theme for the new titles?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2023 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

I was at the event on Thursday and enjoyed the episodes and the scores heard! Im looking forward to the release of the score!

Is is true that they reused the First Contact theme for the new titles?


https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1595911585209364483?

Somehow this went completely under the radar here.

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2023 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

I was at the event on Thursday and enjoyed the episodes and the scores heard! Im looking forward to the release of the score!

Is is true that they reused the First Contact theme for the new titles?


https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1595911585209364483?

Somehow this went completely under the radar here.


Yes they did

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 12, 2023 - 3:03 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Rejoice!!! (Hopefully these means Jerry will one again be credited across every episode of a Trek show)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2023 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Here's a clip from tonight's premier... good lord, what a difference from the S1 and S2 scores!

https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/star-trek-picards-jean-luc-meets-geordis-daughter-sidney-la-forge-in-season-3-clip-and-the-actress-told-us-about-her-fangirl-moment

Chris

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2023 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Wow. Night and day.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2023 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Here's a clip from tonight's premier... good lord, what a difference from the S1 and S2 scores!

https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/star-trek-picards-jean-luc-meets-geordis-daughter-sidney-la-forge-in-season-3-clip-and-the-actress-told-us-about-her-fangirl-moment

Chris


A little TMP in there, sounds so much better than Russo's music. I also liked the clip, looks like it'll be a fun season!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2023 - 12:39 AM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

The episode was good but I have mixed feelings about the score. Barton's Goldsmith stylings mix very uneasily with some more standard suspense/action material (complete with the Horn of Doom). Really disappointing because I was hoping for some callback action music but it's just more of the same that's being written today.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2023 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

From a non-spoiler review of the new season at ... TrekMovie.com:

"The score by Stephen Barton is spectacular, propulsive, and energetic, and honors the rich history of the great Trek composers such as Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, Cliff Eidleman, and even the less great Leonard Rosenman. His music also rectifies the single greatest misstep of the Berman/Lauritson era of milquetoast, minimalist, easy listening scores in TNG’s post-Ron Jones years."


I'm glad Eidleman is included in the homages. Such a properly heavy score, that one. It really sticks with me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2023 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Enjoyed the first episode of Star Trek: Picard season three. Stephen Barton's music at times was a wonderful homage to Goldsmith & Horner while elsewhere fell under the traps of modern crash, bang, braaaaaam scoring. The end title was a major misstep. For some reason, Goldsmith's First Contact theme was used and was poorly edited into Goldsmith's Star Trek: The Motion Picture theme. Not good.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the series and I hope Barton's score follows the direction of Goldsmith/Horner than the cliched, zero-personality tropes of some modern action scores.

-Erik-

 
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