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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4      General Discussion: the mediocrity of Jerry Goldsmith's Psycho II    FIRST   PRIOR   2 3 4       Last Post   Posted:   Feb 12, 2021 - 10:32 AM     By:   Howard L   (Member) Yes, in the European cut!    Posted:   Feb 12, 2021 - 11:46 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) I used to think the (somewhat unwieldy) synths ruined the score in some way, despite still enjoying it on LP and CD and loving it in the film, which I still do. But now, I wouldn't want it any other way. They're now part of its uniqueness to me and make it stand out against any other horror/thriller scores I have of that ilk. Genius, I would say.    Posted:   Feb 12, 2021 - 12:50 PM     By:   Tall Guy   (Member) Psycho 2 score far more elegant and creepy than the Herrmann score Yeah. It would be great if we could reissue the original "Psycho" and replace Herrmann's music with Goldsmith's. Maybe we can start an online petition? And Psycho II is so much better for being in colour. Let’s get the first one colourised while we’re about it. And CGI Justin Timberlake and Taylor Swift’s faces over Norman and Marion’s.    Posted:   Feb 13, 2021 - 11:27 AM     By:   Jeff Bond   (Member) I also talked to an Oscar-winning composer (one who won one very recently) who was saying how impressed he was with Goldsmith's synths of this era--that he had listened to a major electronic score (not by Goldsmith) from the 80s years ago and found the sound very off-putting and dated, but now hears it and loves it. So all of this stuff, as this thread clearly shows, will be examined and reexamined, interpreted and reinterpreted. We all think we have the final word on these things and are rendering the ultimate judgment of history when we type out our cute responses to these threads, but history will form its own judgment.    Posted:   Feb 13, 2021 - 11:32 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Psycho 2 score far more elegant and creepy than the Herrmann score Yeah. It would be great if we could reissue the original "Psycho" and replace Herrmann's music with Goldsmith's. Maybe we can start an online petition? And Psycho II is so much better for being in colour. Let’s get the first one colourised while we’re about it. And CGI Justin Timberlake and Taylor Swift’s faces over Norman and Marion’s. Precisely!    Posted:   Feb 13, 2021 - 12:21 PM     By:   Grecchus   (Member) All of Norm's sandwiches incorporate delayed, fatal consequences. Having a sandwich at the Bates Motel is like watching the videotape from The Ring. Enjoy now, pay later! Makes no difference where you are . . . just whistle while you work. Incidentally, Kevin Costner as Mr Brooks uses a shovel to despatch one of his subjects, as does Johnny Depp in the guise of John Shooter in Secret Window.    Posted:   Feb 14, 2021 - 9:02 AM     By:   agentMaestraX   (Member) A damn fine score. The genesis of Jerry Goldsmith's score was that it was unique and not a repetitive bore. Fitted well within this movie. Had new musical elements of desperation, anxiousness, fear, terror and vulnerability towards the Norman Bates character but still leaves you with that unnerving feeling!    Posted:   Feb 14, 2021 - 10:37 AM     By:   danbeck   (Member) I also prefer this sequel to the original (I love Hitchcock but Psycho is not among my favorites [those include Rope, Rear Window, The Birds, Frenesi and my favorite of all Vertigo], unlikable characters [specially Lila and Sam], artificial dialogue and performances, but a brilliant Herrmann score and the B&W photography does look great). Psycho (1960) movie 7 - score 10 Psycho II (1983) movie 8 - score 10 - Anthony Perkins best performance ever, it was a a genius move to put Vera Miles as a villain and perfect Goldsmith score. Good plot and direction with lots of suspense. On the synths, I noted that the multitracks mix on the complete release highlighted the synths much more in the mix and the piano is much lower than it was in the film mix (and on the original LP - just compare the End Credits) - I'd love if Intrada could rerelease this title as one of their CD/Hi-Res dowload from the original mixes. Psycho III (1986) movie 6 - score 9 (weird movie and score. I disliked both on first viewing after having loved part II but the film does have some great scenes and black humor [like the ice-box scenes] and I also grown to appreciate this score a lot - it was a grail for me and I'm thankfull to Intrada for having finaly released it) Psycho IV (1990) movie 4 - score 6 - This TV movie has some interesting parts but also some cringe-worthy scenes - like the PoV shots (Mick Garris is not one of my favorite horror directors...). The score is not bad but the new Graeme Revell material does not match very well with the Herrmann tracks. Psycho (1998) movie 1 - score 9 - One of the more unnecesary remakes ever made. Elfman's rerecording of the original score is the only good thing about it - even if I think his performance of The Storm is lacking emphasis on the strings replicating the windshield wipers and I disliked some of the movie's overlays/inserts(?) on the music on scenes like the Murder and the finale.    Posted:   Feb 14, 2021 - 12:46 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) I've just been playing the FSM issue of COMA, with the extra score tracks and different mastering, which accentuates the synths a lot more, and it really struck me how much Goldsmith reached back into this score for PSYCHO II & Time Out from the TWILIGHT ZONE Movie. There were times were I actually thought I was listening to PSYCHO II. I hadn't noticed how close they really were before. All great stuff though.    Posted:   Feb 14, 2021 - 1:42 PM     By:   DavidCoscina   (Member) I also talked to an Oscar-winning composer (one who won one very recently) who was saying how impressed he was with Goldsmith's synths of this era--that he had listened to a major electronic score (not by Goldsmith) from the 80s years ago and found the sound very off-putting and dated, but now hears it and loves it. So all of this stuff, as this thread clearly shows, will be examined and reexamined, interpreted and reinterpreted. We all think we have the final word on these things and are rendering the ultimate judgment of history when we type out our cute responses to these threads, but history will form its own judgment. I remember a Goldsmith Keyboard interview where he said he still employed fundamental music concepts to electronics- so melody, harmony, rhythm, timbre and structure. These attributes are all very important regardless of the palette one uses.     General Discussion: the mediocrity of Jerry Goldsmith's Psycho II    << < 2 3 4  >   Go to page:  1 2 3 4   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4

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