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 Posted:   Jan 2, 2006 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Don   (Member)

As I flipped through the answers of my "Tapes Lost"-Thread, a score came into my mind which I haven't thought about for some time, but every time I watch the movie I remember "I HAVE to look out".

Does anybody of you know the 1948-version of Dumas' classic "The Three Musketeers", starring an all-star cast led by Gene Kelly, Lana Turner, June Allyson and a brillant Van Heflin as Athos? Sure many of you do. I was about 8 or 9 when I watched it the first time on telly and the music never went out of my head.

I guess there has been no soundtrack recording of this one, but maybe someone knows if a score suite or something like it exists on a sampler CD?
In general, are there any Stothart-CDs out there?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2006 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   crazyunclerolo   (Member)

The only Herb Stothart recordings I've been able to find--apart from THE WIZARD OF OZ--are all on the 2-disc set called THE LION'S ROAR: CLASSIC MGM FILM SCORES 1935-1965 from Rhino. It includes short suites from Stothart's MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY, THE GOOD EARTH, RANDOM HARVEST and THE YEARLING, as well as OZ. It's a pitifully small amount of available material for so prolific a figure in film music history. I hope someone else can point out recordings I've missed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2006 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   musickco   (Member)

There was a two LP set issued in the late Seventies as I recall: Mutiny On The Bounty was the only title on it I remember now, but there were three other Stothart scores on the album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2006 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....There was a two LP set issued in the late Seventies as I recall: Mutiny On The Bounty was the only title on it I remember now, but there were three other Stothart scores on the album......


Two 12" LPs, 1 side per score:

Anna Karenina (1935)
David Copperfield (1935)
Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
Viva Villa (1934)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2006 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

.....There was a two LP set issued in the late Seventies as I recall: Mutiny On The Bounty was the only title on it I remember now, but there were three other Stothart scores on the album......


Two 12" LPs, 1 side per score:

Anna Karenina (1935)
David Copperfield (1935)
Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
Viva Villa (1934)


This set shows up often enough on Ebay with exorbidant prices attached.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2006 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Don   (Member)

It's a pitifully small amount of available material for so prolific a figure in film music history.


Oh yes! I just checked his filmography on IMDB / Soundtrackcollector. What titles are in there: Anna Karenina, A Tale Of Two Cities, David Copperfield, Mrs. Miniver, The Picture Of Dorian Gray, San Francisco, to name but a few.
Although I have not seen all of these, it must be a real quarry for adventure film music aficionados like me.....

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2006 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Speaking of Stothart, has anyone watched the documentaries on the new Oz DVD? There's a really nice one on the music with input from Howard Shore, Randy Newman and Don Davis...but I swear they got through the whole thing without mentioning Herb Stothart, and they were addressing the score in a lot of it. They credit an arranger with a lot of the music which makes sense for the musical numbers but they talk about the Wicked Witch motif a lot but never really credit Stothart for that. Did he not write that motif?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2006 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

That double LP was a private pressing by the late Tony Thomas, one of the many great gifts he gave us soundtraqck geeks over the years.

Shame on those talented idiots who never mentioned Stothart. He had help, but he was responsible for a LOT of the brilliant OZ underscoring. When I get home to my library, I'll double check, but I'd bet he wrote the witch motif among many other things in that opus...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2006 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Ken Longworth   (Member)

As I flipped through the answers of my "Tapes Lost"-Thread, a score came into my mind which I haven't thought about for some time, but every time I watch the movie I remember "I HAVE to look out".

Does anybody of you know the 1948-version of Dumas' classic "The Three Musketeers", starring an all-star cast led by Gene Kelly, Lana Turner, June Allyson and a brillant Van Heflin as Athos? Sure many of you do. I was about 8 or 9 when I watched it the first time on telly and the music never went out of my head.

I guess there has been no soundtrack recording of this one, but maybe someone knows if a score suite or something like it exists on a sampler CD?


I really should have checked with a movie reference book before writing this but my memory tells me that the Gene Kelly Three Musketeers had music that was adapted from Tchaikovsky or a classical composer of that ilk. . . . Indeed, three books I just quickly checked all credit Stothart. However, he was a master of adaptation and I stick by my Tchaikovsky belief.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2006 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   Don   (Member)

However, he was a master of adaptation and I stick by my Tchaikovsky belief.


This could very well be. I always thought the "Main Title" sounded familiar to me. I'll have to check my scarce collection of Tchaikovsky CD and see if I can figure out where Stothart borrowed. Thanks for all the advice!

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2006 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

If I remember correctly, Wagner was used somewhere in this movie. Just a thought. Maybe somebody can confirm...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2006 - 12:39 AM   
 By:   PeterD   (Member)

The IMDb confirms that THE THREE MUSKETEERS used "non-original music" by Tchaikovsky, as does this review from Variety:

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117795696?categoryid=31&cs=1

But no indication as to what the pieces were.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2006 - 2:46 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

A clip might help...


-Joshua

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2006 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

as I recall, the love theme for June Allyson and (I don't remember who) was Tchais Love theme from Romeo and Juliet.

 
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