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 Posted:   Jul 19, 2010 - 7:32 PM   
 By:   mrscott   (Member)

Find his book IF's Thrilling Cities about his travels throughout the world. Published first as magazine articles then compiled into one vol. it is an interesting look at the times and the man. Also does anyone have a clue as to who finished the novel Man With TGG. I believe it was published after his death and did not reflect his writing abilities. Same with E Hemingways Islands in the Stream which seemed to have a change in both style and direction before seeing it's posthumous publication. MWTGG with the song by LULU may also have been her first writing adventure in novels. It certainly couldn't have been IF.

Kingsley Amis is said to have finished Man with the Golden Gun. He then went on (under a psuedonym) to do an "authorized" one-off Bond novel himself, Colonel Sun. http://amzn.to/cQj7mC

Another interesting one-off Bond is the "Authorized Biography" by John Pearson. http://amzn.to/8Z1PNc


Didn't Amis also do a book on the James Bond Character? If he finished MWTGG he did it while on a beer bender that must have been the biggest of his life. It was terrible.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2019 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Noticed that Kindle versions of all of Fleming's books are 99 cents each right now

https://amzn.to/2SWJgx7

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2019 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Didn't Amis also do a book on the James Bond Character


yes..

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2019 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Re-reading this thread ... I can't believe I've been posting here for more than 10 years! I must update my bio ...

I think I read Thunderball after seeing the first two films (when showing as a double-bill, mid 60s) but before seeing that film (I recall discussing sequences with my father who had seen the film and finding out there were differences). So, for the rest of the 1960s/early 1970s I read the complete set, out of order, with Live and Let Die being the last - I have a reason to know this but won't bore you ...

I was an out-and-out fan, struggling to match the films with the novels (I recall thinking the films were meant to recreate the novels and hence were out of order ...) As posted above - 10 years ago - I've read so many other JB007 novels and associated literature but I never have got around to the latest (multiple) authors' works ... I called it a day after Raymond Benson's last effort (an effort it was to read it!).

I re-iterate: none of the follow-on novels authored by the above were anywhere as good as the originals and I disagree with TG's praise of Kingsley Amis/Robert Markham's Colonel Sun ... it's a dreadful, boring, incomprehensible read (I'll stop there in case I become too critical). I re-read it a few years ago and it's been re-cycled. All of the John Gardner & Raymond Benson novels left my shelves a few years ago ... I couldn't bring myself to re-read those.

But what about the originals: 12 novels and 2 short-story collections. I re-read them all in the mid-70s and up until 10 years ago, had re-read Casino Royale and Goldfinger again. The latter because ... I couldn't recall too much of the exposition; the former because, from time-to-time, I set my mind to try and understand the plot of the 2006 film which does not make sense and I try to utilise the written page ... no luck, so far.

So now, as a way of de-cluttering, I'm disposing of books, inter alia and have, in the last six months, re-read the first two novels. I'd forgotten just how poor the second one is. Perhaps the first has the advantage of being ... the first (the writing is weak but the story holds your attention); the second struggles throughout and whilst I accept it is a product of its time (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there) I found the racism a struggle to gloss-over. But ignoring the style it is, put simply, a poor novel.

Of course, you may say it's because my tastes are now attuned to more recent works. But I've recently re-read Leslie Charteris's The Saint Sees It Through (1947) ... a far better read; and am presently re-reading Adam Hall's Queen in Danger (1952) ... far from great but so much more enjoyable.

I remain a JB007 fan (despite the last two films) and do recommend reading the source novels if your interest goes beyond the cinematic exploits ... just expect the written word to reveal a different world.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

I would love a Netflix series faithfully adapting the books, time period and all. It may be difficult to translate some of the stories into moving pictures, but whatevs. I'd still enjoy seeing it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2019 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I would love a Netflix series faithfully adapting the books, time period and all. It may be difficult to translate some of the stories into moving pictures, but whatevs. I'd still enjoy seeing it.


Actually, that’s a really good idea. Leave it with you smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   dtw   (Member)

As an aside, I have just finished The Man Who Saved Britain by Simon Winder, an interesting personal musing on the socio-cultural impact of Bond in the books and the films, with regards to Britain's changing view of itself as its role in the world changed over the last century. Worth having a look at, I think, although I'd warn of two things: (a) the author's love of excessively long complex sentences, and (b) an apoplectic-spluttering-inducing exhortation to his readers around 4/5ths of the way through, not to buy soundtrack albums!

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

As an aside, I have just finished The Man Who Saved Britain by Simon Winder, an interesting personal musing on the socio-cultural impact of Bond in the books and the films, with regards to Britain's changing view of itself as its role in the world changed over the last century. Worth having a look at, I think, although I'd warn of two things: (a) the author's love of excessively long complex sentences, ]!

Thor will love it!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   thomasc002   (Member)

The main draw for me [url=http://www.baloune.com/guide-sante-des-chats]assurance chat [/url] is probably that Fleming worldview and his attention to style, which is sadly lacking today.

And then there's also his misogyny... big grin


..and racism, and homophobia, and sadism

god help me, i do love it so...

This is my first time here and I just want to say that I’m very happy to be here and to share my opinion.
Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

The main draw for me [url=http://www.baloune.com/guide-sante-des-chats]assurance chat [/url] is probably that Fleming worldview and his attention to style, which is sadly lacking today.

And then there's also his misogyny... big grin


..and racism, and homophobia, and sadism

god help me, i do love it so...

This is my first time here and I just want to say that I’m very happy to be here and to share my opinion.
Thanks!



And you’re very welcome - as long as you don’t offer essay writing services.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2019 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

I read Casino Royale a few years ago and really didn't like it, which I was a bit surprised by. Didn't try another. Can't recall whether it was the style if writing or just the plot I want interested in.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

I know all the Bond novels frontwards and backwards.

Casino Royale is my favorite.

It may not be his best, but I think it's perfect.

I love that voice Fleming creates in one's head.
That blunt, matter-of-fact, true-as-steel voice of James Bond.
Especially when he's steeling himself to undergo some tortured ordeal.

It's okay to be a male thinking about women in carnal terms.
It's not misogyny, really, it's being human.
Yes, there is misogyny but much less than people talk about.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Actually, the movie BOND IS MUCH MORE OF A TOMCAT!

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Actually, the movie BOND IS MUCH MORE OF A TOMCAT!

 
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