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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Anatomy of a Research Project: Star Trek: The Motion Picture by Cameron Patrick
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Wow! Talk about dedication. I just downloaded the thesis and plan on reading it later (and over the next few days).

Re: this... One of those leads turned out to be a gold mine of fascinating information. Preston Neal Jones is a writer who compiled an oral history of the making of ST:TMP with the aim of publishing a book about its complicated journey to the big screen.

I always wondered whatever happened with this. I'd love to read it, especially since we'll probably never get a definitive making-of book or documentary from Paramount.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Saul Pincus   (Member)

Awesome, thanks Cameron!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Sean   (Member)

Love ST:TMP. Love the thesis. But this is what I love the most:

I now work as a violinist, violist, orchestrator and composer, have married the love of my life and live with him and our two cats in Torrance.

My new hero.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Love ST:TMP. Love the thesis. But this is what I love the most:

I now work as a violinist, violist, orchestrator and composer, have married the love of my life and live with him and our two cats in Torrance.

My new hero.


Your new hero? But, lots of guys have two cats.


Aside to Scott: Thanks for the plug. Maybe Cameron's impressive thesis now seeing daylight will bode well for my project finally getting out from under a bushel...

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Thanks a lot for sharing your Thesis with us, Cameron!

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

Re: this... One of those leads turned out to be a gold mine of fascinating information. Preston Neal Jones is a writer who compiled an oral history of the making of ST:TMP with the aim of publishing a book about its complicated journey to the big screen.

I always wondered whatever happened with this. I'd love to read it, especially since we'll probably never get a definitive making-of book or documentary from Paramount.


I would love to see something like this released. I've always held STTMP as my favorite of the classic films. Sure I love the rest, but the cinematography, the art design, the soundtrack, the special effects, everything about it simply puts it over and above the sequels for me. It's a shame it gets overlooked so often.

It's such a shame that Paramount felt it necessary to "plus" the effects for DVD release. It's perfect as it is! (Although I'd like to see both the theatrical and original video release get a BluRay treatment...)

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   MerM   (Member)

TMP's theatrical cut is on the blu-ray.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Love ST:TMP. Love the thesis. But this is what I love the most:

I now work as a violinist, violist, orchestrator and composer, have married the love of my life and live with him and our two cats in Torrance.


Indeed- congratulations to Cameron and his husband for thier life together and their art.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

I've just skimmed the piece, but wow! Can't wait to dive in properly.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2010 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Aside to Scott: Thanks for the plug. Maybe Cameron's impressive thesis now seeing daylight will bode well for my project finally getting out from under a bushel...


Preston, I meant to ask you this earlier . . .

I was reminded of your "Return to Tomorrow" when I read some of the reactions here to Charles Helfenstein's new book, "The Making of On Her Majesty's Secret Service." Do you think a sort of self-publishing arrangement of that nature might be the way to go for your project as well?

A couple of the things everyone seems to enjoy about that book are its lavish production values and its unauthorized (un-whitewashed) account of what happened . . . exactly the reasons I've looked forward to reading your book these many years.

Any chance it'll happen soon?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2010 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Aside to Scott: Thanks for the plug. Maybe Cameron's impressive thesis now seeing daylight will bode well for my project finally getting out from under a bushel...


Preston, I meant to ask you this earlier . . .

I was reminded of your "Return to Tomorrow" when I read some of the reactions here to Charles Helfenstein's new book, "The Making of On Her Majesty's Secret Service." Do you think a sort of self-publishing arrangement of that nature might be the way to go for your project as well?

A couple of the things everyone seems to enjoy about that book are its lavish production values and its unauthorized (un-whitewashed) account of what happened . . . exactly the reasons I've looked forward to reading your book these many years.

Any chance it'll happen soon?



Dear Sigerson,

Where can I read about the MAJESTY'S book? Is there a thread on one of the FSM Boards?

You've asked some excellent questions, for which my only answers right now can be "God knows" and "Maybe." You may know I was hit by a bus a couple of Decembers ago; it's been an unexpectedly long recovery. But when it's all over and the dust settles, I'll have more time than ever before to work on my literary endeavors and to try to promote things like STAR TREK that have been stuck in my trunk all these years. Wish me luck, and thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2010 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)


Dear Sigerson,

Where can I read about the MAJESTY'S book? Is there a thread on one of the FSM Boards?


http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67723&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2010 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   That Bloke   (Member)

Wow. What a great read.
Thank you for letting us have access to this. Mate, don't be ashamed of your comments from your youthful self. What stands out from your thesis is not the prose for which you feel embarrassed but your passion for the subject and the depth and intelligence of the analysis. May film music (and music in general) keep bringing you success and happiness.
Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2010 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Thanks, Bob!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2010 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   camismyhero   (Member)

Wow. I've never even seen ST:TMP and don't know how to read music (guess I'm just a sucker for reading thesis papers on unfamiliar topics) but this paper was very awesome; kept me interested the entire time and was incredibly well-written. Cam, thank you so much for sharing this with everyone!

Your new hero? But, lots of guys have two cats.

I have four cats... can I be somebody's hero?!? Please...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2012 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   ash595   (Member)


But when it's all over and the dust settles, I'll have more time than ever before to work on my literary endeavors and to try to promote things like STAR TREK that have been stuck in my trunk all these years. Wish me luck, and thanks!


Is there any news about your book on Star Trek TMP ?

Some months ago I found the cover planned for the double issue of CFQ.
http://blog.darendoc.com/?p=142



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 Posted:   Dec 30, 2016 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   cameronpatrick   (Member)

Wow! Talk about dedication. I just downloaded the thesis and plan on reading it later (and over the next few days).

Re: this... One of those leads turned out to be a gold mine of fascinating information. Preston Neal Jones is a writer who compiled an oral history of the making of ST:TMP with the aim of publishing a book about its complicated journey to the big screen.

I always wondered whatever happened with this. I'd love to read it, especially since we'll probably never get a definitive making-of book or documentary from Paramount.


Hi Scott,
Thanks for your kind words. Sorry this "thank you" is a mere 6.5 years late! I had meant to reply back when Lukas first posted the thesis but you know ... best laid plans and all that ... Just came looking to see if it was still posted on the site and when I saw that it was, remembered with horror that I never replied to those hardy few of you who bravely waded through it!
Cheers & Happy New Year!
Cameron

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2016 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   cameronpatrick   (Member)

Awesome, thanks Cameron!

Hi Saul,
Thanks for your kind words. Sorry this "thank you" is a mere 6.5 years late! I had meant to reply back when Lukas first posted the thesis but you know ... best laid plans and all that ... Just came looking to see if it was still posted on the site and when I saw that it was, remembered with horror that I never replied to those hardy few of you who bravely waded through it!
Cheers & Happy New Year!
Cameron

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2016 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   cameronpatrick   (Member)

Wow. What a great read.
Thank you for letting us have access to this. Mate, don't be ashamed of your comments from your youthful self. What stands out from your thesis is not the prose for which you feel embarrassed but your passion for the subject and the depth and intelligence of the analysis. May film music (and music in general) keep bringing you success and happiness.
Cheers



Dear That Bloke,
Thank you sir for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it. As I said to the other posters .... apologies for this "thank you" being 6.5 years late! What can I say ... Jerry's ST-TMP score still blows me away every time I listen to it.
Cheers & Happy New Year!
Cameron

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2016 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   cameronpatrick   (Member)

Love ST:TMP. Love the thesis. But this is what I love the most:

I now work as a violinist, violist, orchestrator and composer, have married the love of my life and live with him and our two cats in Torrance.

My new hero.


Dear Sean,
Oh my gosh, my apologies for this "thank you" being 6.5 years late. As I mentioned to the other posters, I really did have the best of intentions back in 2010 when Lukas originally posted the thesis and you wrote this beautiful message, but life must have thrown some roadblock in the way. Truly humbled by your kind thoughts.
Cheers & Happy New Year ... from all of us down here in Torrance!
Cameron

 
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