Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Is there really not already a thread for this score? Hmm.

In any event, the "Main Title" just popped up on shuffle and I was moved to post about my love for this score, which came during that fruitful period for "smaller" projects sandwiched between the tentpole films of the mid-to-late 80's and mid-90's.

I'm always immediately struck by what a dexterous piece of scoring it is. The filmmaking is equally agile, shifting in tone countless times but never losing the focus of any one moment. It's hysterically funny, genuinely suspenseful, and emotionally grounded, and Horner manages to find a throughline for his score that manages by turns to flit between airy readings of the buddy music, the crashing pianos of the heist, the crescendo of the blind man seeing, and the adagio of old friends.

The masterstroke was Branford Marsalis. Not so much hiring Marsalis himself, though he's certainly a great musician. Really it's the idea of featuring a soloist that works wonders bridging the gap from sequence to sequence so that it never feels episodic. It really makes each tonal shift feel like part of the whole.

It's also really, really good music, plain and simple.

I only noticed recently that Horner uses the danger motif throughout, just in a completely different guise.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   JMC   (Member)

Still after all these years this is my favorite movie to watch and my favorite James Horner score.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

"Hi! My-name-is-WERNER BRANDES-my-voice-is-my-Passport?-verify-me."

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

One piece of great music that seems to be missing from the album: When Bishop leaves the reception following Janak's lecture and heads up to meet the van on top of the parking garage nextdoor, there's a short but wonderful piece of music led by a really insistent line for piano. Right before they do what they did in Mexico City.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   JMC   (Member)

One piece of great music that seems to be missing from the album: When Bishop leaves the reception following Janak's lecture and heads up to meet the van on top of the parking garage nextdoor, there's a short but wonderful piece of music led by a really insistent line for piano. Right before they do what they did in Mexico City.

That bit is great and I'd also love to get the scene where River Phoenix's character breaks into the Playtonics building and raises the temp. That is great 'sneaking' around music. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   JMC   (Member)

One piece of great music that seems to be missing from the album: When Bishop leaves the reception following Janak's lecture and heads up to meet the van on top of the parking garage nextdoor, there's a short but wonderful piece of music led by a really insistent line for piano. Right before they do what they did in Mexico City.

That bit is great and I'd also love to get the scene where River Phoenix's character breaks into the Playtonics building and raises the temp. That is great 'sneaking' around music. smile


And alternately, the last couple of minutes of the Playtronics Break-in track on the CD is not used in the movie. I'd love to see/hear how that worked in the original cut.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

I always loved the light, delicate, almost swirling sound with female vocals Horner used in this score and was glad to hear him return to it somewhat nearly 10 years later for A Beautiful Mind, probably the last Horner score I really liked. It's a singular sound that has a very interesting feel to it, almost like dancing on air. Sneakers is a score I've liked since I heard it in the theater and thought it gave a very different texture to the film that set it apart from the pack.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   mguevarra61   (Member)

The use of percussion on this score is brilliant.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

This and Cocoon are the two Horner scores I'd most love to have complete or expanded.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Sneakers is a score I've liked since I heard it in the theater and thought it gave a very different texture to the film that set it apart from the pack.

Great point. The vocals and Horner's swirling use of the higher registers really make it distinct.

Also, I do remember, back when the Horner backlash was at a fever pitch, that this was one Horner score that even Lukas liked.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

My all-time favorite James Horner score. The film, the score, it's all perfect.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Is there really not already a thread for this score? Hmm.

Several years ago a bunch of us here took the Sneakers challenge, watched the film on the same weekend and then weighed in. It was a very sober, thought-inducing and thought-provoking discussion; no haranguers, no apologists. Just reality.

Now gather 'round, gather round ye chillun', come an' listen to the story of a thread from an earlier version of ye olde messageboard that is lost, save for its original post, and that is ripe for resurrection whenever another Sneakers challenge--or reasonable facsimile thereof--presents itself...like...now! Here is one such resurrection, complete with Yours Truly and an earlier version, too, of Sir Rutherford (but not nearly as early as launch point 1999's [eek]).

Enjoy, Mr. Skerritt! (any relation to Tom?)
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=57558&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2010 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   Mike W   (Member)

There's something about the texture of this score that always appealed to me from the first time I saw the film. It somehow seemed to avoid the more obvious Hollywood tropes by moving between pseudo-minimalism and the featured-soloist bits, and generally laying back. I'm no Horner scholar, so I have little familiarity with where he may have grabbed various motives from past work, but I can recall hearing Sneakers weaved into Apollo 13 among others. I think Lukas wrote at the time of the release that Sneakers reset the clock on Horner's toolbox with his creation of new material he could then pillage for another decade or so. While I no longer own the CD, I do own the DVD of the film, and pop it on every couple of years - still getting a kick out of it.

Howard, the original "Sneakers Homestudy Course" thread was one of the good ones on the old FSM board. Every now & then I wish there was an archive of that content so I could see how my own thoughts on films & scores have evolved through the years. Thanks for jogging the memory.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 1:21 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Certainly one of my favourite films; and probably my favourite James Horner score.

I used track 2 of the CD regularly when I was auditioning various hi-fi components. Not the best quality sound but the bass is excellent - love it!

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   Olivier_Lille   (Member)

Sorry to put my two-cents in...
But listen to Arvo Pärt's 'Fratres' and tell me what you think...
That aside, the score is great.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 5:22 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, absolutely, but I'm giving Horner a free pass on this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   jigawatts   (Member)

This has always been one of my favorite scores. My two favorite tracks are Too Many Secrets and Cosmo, Old Friend. I also love the way Horner cleverly incorporated the 'danger motif' so that it's barely recognizable. I really hope that someday we get an expanded, complete score. I love the score from the part of the film after Bishop gets dumped in the street after visiting with Cosmo. A beautiful piano piece that should've been on the album.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 6:21 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, the complete score to this would make the original Columbia album look like a slow ride to grandma's house.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Every now & then I wish there was an archive of that content so I could see how my own thoughts on films & scores have evolved through the years.

Yes. As if to mirror the film music retail explosion, our personal frames of reference, too, have expanded over the past decade...as this comment well illustrates:

Yeah, absolutely, but I'm giving Horner a free pass on this score.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2010 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Is there really not already a thread for this score? Hmm.

Several years ago a bunch of us here took the Sneakers challenge, watched the film on the same weekend and then weighed in. It was a very sober, thought-inducing and thought-provoking discussion; no haranguers, no apologists. Just reality.

Now gather 'round, gather round ye chillun', come an' listen to the story of a thread from an earlier version of ye olde messageboard that is lost, save for its original post, and that is ripe for resurrection whenever another Sneakers challenge--or reasonable facsimile thereof--presents itself...like...now! Here is one such resurrection, complete with Yours Truly and an earlier version, too, of Sir Rutherford (but not nearly as early as launch point 1999's [eek]).

Enjoy, Mr. Skerritt! (any relation to Tom?)
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=57558&forumID=1&archive=0


Hmmm. By that time I was lurking if not participating here, but I definitely don't remember your Sneakers Home Study Course. And I am more the poorer for it. frown

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2024 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.
Website maintained and powered by Veraprise and Matrimont.