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 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Shia Labeouf burnt his bridges when you bad mouthed the film around the time of it's release.
I don't think Spielberg would ever work with Labeouf again. Reportedly Ford called Labeouf a "f*cking idiot".


Around the time of its release? He did it in Cannes 2010, two years after Crystal Skull came out at the festival as well. Too soon lol? I actually applaud him for having done so and it would seem that both Spielberg and Ford haven't actually been praising the movie as much either. Spielberg clearly disavowing it as a George Lucas film more than one of his own.

I know, chances of Shia coming back are close to zero anyway. He is currently on a "take Shia Labeouf anywhere" project lol

http://takemeanywhere.vice.com/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Good on him for speaking out on the troublesome film (even if it isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be)! And now that he's made a new career for himself in alternative cinema, I'm sure he's pleased. I certainly enjoyed him in both the von Trier and Arnold film. Then again, I've never really had an issue with him.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Good on him for speaking out on the troublesome film (even if it isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be)!

What exactly is admirable about that?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

kinda with Shiffy on this one. Those movies were hardly great, but Shia took the money for the Transformer movies and Indy4, then later blasted them as inferior and now has moved on to art films. Those blockbuster movies that were such disappointments to him made him a pretty wealthy guy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I just find it refreshing when you call a spade a spade. A rarity in Hollywood.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

or when you call a dollar a dollar

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2016 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Shia Labeouf burnt his bridges when you bad mouthed the film around the time of it's release.
I don't think Spielberg would ever work with Labeouf again. Reportedly Ford called Labeouf a "f*cking idiot".


Around the time of its release? He did it in Cannes 2010, two years after Crystal Skull came out at the festival as well. Too soon lol? I actually applaud him for having done so and it would seem that both Spielberg and Ford haven't actually been praising the movie as much either. Spielberg clearly disavowing it as a George Lucas film more than one of his own.

I know, chances of Shia coming back are close to zero anyway. He is currently on a "take Shia Labeouf anywhere" project lol

http://takemeanywhere.vice.com/


Well that's odd because I also remember Spielberg saying something to the effect, "There's a time to promote a film, and then there's the time to be honest." (Paraphrasing) So that makes it sound like Labeouf comments were around the time of release. But hey I'm going on memory, and we all know how well that goes nowadays!

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2016 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)

Back to the age question:

John Williams will be in his late 80s when he does the score for Indy 5, but there are many actors who kept working well into their 90s such as Ernest Borgnine and Eli Wallach. Williams can certainly go another 10 years if nature allows him.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2016 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Back to the age question:

John Williams will be in his late 80s when he does the score for Indy 5, but there are many actors who kept working well into their 90s such as Ernest Borgnine and Eli Wallach. Williams can certainly go another 10 years if nature allows him.


Of course he can. His mother was almost 100 years old when she died, and hopefully he has inherited her genes.

Plenty of composers who have kept working into their 90s too. Russell Garcia, for example (who -- incidentally -- was one of the first to hire Williams for an album in the mid 50s).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2016 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

From today´s THR-interview with Bob Iger:

You have another Lucasfilm property, Indiana Jones, and Steven Spielberg has agreed to make a fifth film. Will there be an Indiana Jones universe, eventually, like Star Wars?

Not like Star Wars, no. But we hope … right now, we're focused on a reboot, or a continuum and then a reboot of some sort.

Reboot? You've got Harrison Ford for this movie, and then the presumption is there will be a younger …

Well, we'll bring him back, then we have to figure out what comes next. That's what I mean. It's not really a reboot, it's a boot — a reboot. I don't know.

THR has been using the term "requel" for these sequels that reboot the franchise.

Requel. (Laughs.) We [got] Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones in the film. But then what's the direction? I've had discussions about what the direction is, [but] I don't want to get into it.

But you do see making more films?

Yes, I do. I don't think it reaches the scale of the universe of Star Wars, but I see making more. It won't be just a one-off.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2016 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I just feel like balfing all over the place.


First, instead of taking the chance to rectify the horrible KotCS film they instead want to make a follow up to it, now they're trying to soft reboot the franchise so they make it another series of crappy sequels.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2016 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I *loved* the ending of Indy 3, and although I don't hate Indy 4 like the masses do, the only reason I care about this project is the prospect of another John Williams Indiana Jones score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2016 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

I ran into Steven Spielberg over at Paramount Studio's....I go over to eat at the Commissary...it was Taco Tuesday. Well anyways..I was talking to Spielberg and told him how excited to see the AFI Honor John Williams. Spielberg was eager to tell me the Title of his new Indiana Jones Film. I told Spielberg I would share it with my many fans on FSM....

Spielberg told me that he had a couple of Indiana Jones Titles in the works.

Indiana Jones in the: Apology

Indiana Jones in The Search of an Idea

Indiana Jones in Tales from the Crypt

Indiana Jones in Search of a Social Security Office

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2016 - 4:23 AM   
 By:   1977   (Member)

Very excited for another JW Indy. I love the KoCS score and honestly don't get the vitriol that some folk here and elsewhere have for it. Then again I suppose my avatar and alias speak volumes in this regard. I fondly remember listening to the CD in my car on the way to and from work in '08, (an hour long drive each way).

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2016 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

Great News more FORTUNE & GLORY!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2016 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Coco314   (Member)

Very excited for another JW Indy. I love the KoCS score and honestly don't get the vitriol that some folk here and elsewhere have for it.

KOTCS was good but perhaps not great Williams. I often find that "the album was not a great presentation of the score" to be an excuse for less than great music to begin with, but must say that, in this case, the album does not indeed show the score in the best light: the concert pieces should have been spread and the full "jungle chase" and more music from the beginning of the movie instead of some repetitive underscoring would have make a difference. Williams has certainly created perfect album presentations lately ("Tintin", "War Horse", "Force Awakens" among them), but this was not one of them.

As for the new movie, anything that makes Williams writing new scores is fine by me. I am more worried by the set release date with no script yet - then again, they took 15 years for the last movie and ended up with a Frankenstein's Monster of a script.

But still, I hope they film that great biplane scene from Frank Darabont script!

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2016 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   WhoDat   (Member)

I also enjoy the score to KOTCS far more than most, but I definitely think the "complete" version does it more justice than the album presentation. The full Jungle Chase is awesome. The restatements of the family theme here and there (Sean Connery's desk photo, on the rocks above Akator at the end) are beautiful. Can't believe we're coming up on ten years since it came out... in 2007 people were wondering how Harrison would do as Indy given his age then. Now he's going to put on the fedora again in 2017/18 for the summer of 19 release??? Like John Williams, he's ageless.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2017 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The film has been pushed back a year, to 2020.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2017 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

The film has been pushed back a year, to 2020.

Good. I had been thinking that they should really wait until Harrison Ford is a little closer to 80 before making a fifth one of these.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2017 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

Going to be the lone voice of desent. I don't really care to see this movie get made. And really, With John still doing Star Wars movies I don't need to hear him revisit this franchise. Crystal Skull brought shame on this series and I wish they would leave it at that.

 
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