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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Ben-Hur
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

I've listened to all but the last CD (work has been very busy, so that's a good thing.) I have to say the film tracks are incredibly nice, particularly when compared to the original LP tracks.

Although I love the performance, I've always felt that the Savina album sounds... over-loud or over-processed? It just seems too busy for the way it was mic'd. On the LP, "Victory Parade" also seems have an added echo that makes it quite noisy (this echo is not present on the Sony version.) Without a direct comparison, I'd say FSM's presentation of the Savina album sounds better than the Sony.

Hearing the First Kloss Album, I actually prefer this "budget" album over the Savina. The sound is clear and more intimate, as if you are in the room with the orchestra.

Having never owned the Rhino, I'm quite pleased with this presentation. This set will dominate my playlist for the next few months or until I start getting dirty looks from my co-workers!

Michael

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Basil is the new Billy Crystal.

Funny, I don't remember ever laughing that much at Billy Crystal.

Though I must admit, his Oscars crack about millionaires handing out gold statuettes to each other in harsh economic times was pretty spot on.


And 'we're one pony shy of a bar mitzvah'.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   sotall   (Member)

I want to know if the online notes will be available as a PDF file at a later date. Or are they already and I'm too blind to see the reference.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Post deleted.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

I want to know if the online notes will be available as a PDF file at a later date. Or are they already and I'm too blind to see the reference.

I asked that earlier in this thread.
The answer is that they will be available as a PDF in the near future.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Dr. Lao   (Member)

Who is the conductor of 2CD set Sony's HUR?

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Dr. Lao   (Member)

Echo.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Who is the conductor of 2CD set Sony's HUR?

Depends which one you mean.

Sony released TWO 2CD sets from BH.

In the 1990s there was one which presented the two albums (Savina and 'More Music') conducted by Savina and Rozsa himself under the pseudonym of Kloss, who was present.

Recently, they re-issued the Rhino OST tracks.

With the FSM you have all that and much more.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Messala: In the name of all the gods Judah, what does the cost of a cracked jewel case mean to you?
Judah: If I cannot persuade them to use stronger materials, that does not mean I won't buy their products. Besides, and you must understand this Messala, I believe in the past of CD and in its future.
Messala: Future? CD is a dead technology.
Judah: You may conquer CD, you may gloat about broken cases, but that is not the end... CD will rise again!
Messala: Ahh.. you live on dead dreams, the technology of the past! The glory of multi-disc boxes has gone. Kendall will not rise again to save them, nor Townson. Look for the best Judah... don't be a fool, look to iTunes!
Judah: I would rather be a fool than a nerd or an Apple fan Boy.
Messala: I am a savvy buyer.
Judah: Yes, who is killing CD and slaughtering my hobby! But not forever! And I tell you the day mp3 falls there will be a shout of freedom that the soundtrack world has never heard before!

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

When I opened the front of my "Ben-Hur" case, the hinged tray was already loose. I had a momentary flash of the Wrath of Steve. After regaining composure and carefully snapping it back into place, though . . .

. . . I just had to try removing Disc III from its spindle and WOW was that a job. It's true what they say about compact disc flexibility. In colder weather I'm sure it would have snapped in two. Instead of daring to put it back on the spindle, I'm storing it on the other side, where the booklet goes. When you put the booklet in on top of it and close the case, there's no movement, so I think it's a scuff-risk-free solution.

My only other superficial dissatisfaction is that I ordered the "Ben-Hur" set, the Schifrin set, and the Rozsa box all at once and didn't get a single free magnet or composer card or anything. What's up with THAT?!

Okay, now that I've vented everything on you all, I'm calm enough to enjoy the genius of Rozsa and Matessino.

Do not disturb.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Yeah, I was surprised there was no Ben-Hur magnet! or extra Rozsa box magnets.

That's one of the things i've loved about ordering from SAE....the nifty magnets smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Yeah, I was surprised there was no Ben-Hur magnet! or extra Rozsa box magnets.

That's one of the things i've loved about ordering from SAE....the nifty magnets smile


I have gotten Battle of Neretva magnets in each of my last 2 orders.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

Messala: In the name of all the gods Judah, what does the cost of a cracked jewel case mean to you?
Judah: If I cannot persuade them to use stronger materials, that does not mean I won't buy their products. Besides, and you must understand this Messala, I believe in the past of CD and in its future.
Messala: Future? CD is a dead technology.
Judah: You may conquer CD, you may gloat about broken cases, but that is not the end... CD will rise again!
Messala: Ahh.. you live on dead dreams, the technology of the past! The glory of multi-disc boxes has gone. Kendall will not rise again to save them, nor Townson. Look for the best Judah... don't be a fool, look to iTunes!
Judah: I would rather be a fool than a nerd or an Apple fan Boy.
Messala: I am a savvy buyer.
Judah: Yes, who is killing CD and slaughtering my hobby! But not forever! And I tell you the day mp3 falls there will be a shout of freedom that the soundtrack world has never heard before!


May the ghost of Christopher Fry haunt you, Basil.

That is, if he can stop chuckling long enough. smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Dr. Lao   (Member)

Who is the conductor of 2CD set Sony's HUR?

Depends which one you mean.

Sony released TWO 2CD sets from BH.

In the 1990s there was one which presented the two albums (Savina and 'More Music') conducted by Savina and Rozsa himself under the pseudonym of Kloss, who was present.

Recently, they re-issued the Rhino OST tracks.

With the FSM you have all that and much more.


Thanks, William.

I have the old Sony CD set (blue), one of my first CDs and my very first disc composed by Rózsa, the first of many.

I noticed that 3 cues are officially conducted by Rózsa: MGM Studio Orchestra. Do you know what recording is this?

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   inVINCible   (Member)

When I opened the front of my "Ben-Hur" case, the hinged tray was already loose. I had a momentary flash of the Wrath of Steve. After regaining composure and carefully snapping it back into place, though . . .

. . . I just had to try removing Disc III from its spindle and WOW was that a job. .


I received the set today!! So yeah, when I opened up the case, the hinged tray popped out and I thought it had broken off, but we're all good now as I was able to snap it back into place. Just gotta go easy with the first and last CD trays.

What an absolutely beautiful presentation (booklet, artwork, CD graphics, etc.)...
Now I'm popping CD1 in the Bose. Can't wait!! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   DJ3J   (Member)

Got mine today. No problems with the CD trays at all. An incredible package! Anyone know where to get high quality scans of the LP covers that are in the booklet?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Who is the conductor of 2CD set Sony's HUR?

Depends which one you mean.

Sony released TWO 2CD sets from BH.

In the 1990s there was one which presented the two albums (Savina and 'More Music') conducted by Savina and Rozsa himself under the pseudonym of Kloss, who was present.

Recently, they re-issued the Rhino OST tracks.

With the FSM you have all that and much more.


Thanks, William.

I have the old Sony CD set (blue), one of my first CDs and my very first disc composed by Rózsa, the first of many.

I noticed that 3 cues are officially conducted by Rózsa: MGM Studio Orchestra. Do you know what recording is this?


those 3 cues are from the film recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Primo   (Member)

Got my set today but could have used a crowbar to get out the third disk – whew!! Am glad I was forewarned.

 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Not sure what pixie dust FSM used, but the crystal clarity of the FSM BEN-HUR original tracks is, to my ears, head and shoulders above the Rhino set. It's a revelation.

Amen. A magnificent release. Just finished my first spin of the first two discs, which was an intense and quite moving experience. This kind of clarity is like experiencing the movie projected in 70mm on the most enormous screen, with the best seats in the house. The first downbeat literally made me shudder, it was so thunderous. Epic. Bravo, FSM.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2012 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

Amen. A magnificent release. Just finished my first spin of the first two discs, which was an intense and quite moving experience. This kind of clarity is like experiencing the movie projected in 70mm on the most enormous screen, with the best seats in the house. The first downbeat literally made me shudder, it was so thunderous. Epic. Bravo, FSM.

God, the front of my shirt's all damp from salivating--if only Intrada received stocks at the same time as SAE. Oh well, at least I got an email from them confirming my order. Unfortunately, on the question of when they'd have stock, they were disturbingly silent. And their site only says, "Coming in March", which could turn out to be a very long month for some of us. frown

 
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