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 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

I have THE GIFT signed by Christopher Young and it plays damaged now. It is a FYC cd-r. Bummer.

Yes I recognise it, I have a FYC Atlantis, James Newton Howard (paid serious money for it a few years ago!) but it will not play anymore. I have the feeling they use these poor recordables on purpose. So the owner will loose the music after a while.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I may have a few commercially made CDR's. I've finally burnt my entire music collection into my computer. So no great loss if a CD stops working.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I have the feeling they use these poor recordables on purpose. So the owner will loose the music after a while.

Really?

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I have no preference one way or the other on the physical entity "the CDR," although I guess my indifference means I'm mildly FOR the idea of commercial CDRs.

I do know that if CDR is the compromise that saves us from the bigger labels deciding to go with "no physical release, download only," I'm all for it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Timothy J. Phlaps   (Member)

They appear to be doing this with blu-rays now as well. There's been a bunch of stuff I nearly added to my wishlist on Amazon before I noticed they're BD-Rs.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I have the feeling they use these poor recordables on purpose. So the owner will loose the music after a while.


 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   chadergeist   (Member)

I just received DEEP IMPACT, THE SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES and THE SPITFIRE GRILL and they were all cdrs! It didn't say anything about them being cdrs when I ordered them. It made me so mad I almost threw them out!


Return them. That is Amazon's fault that they sent you cdrs and being deceitful about it. I would go to Ebay or Discogs to get them if they are going to lie about it on their listing. I don't purchase any cds or lps on Ebay unless it is of actual photos in the listing. I stay away from the stock image in the listings.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Return them. That is Amazon's fault that they sent you cdrs and being deceitful about it. I would go to Ebay or Discogs to get them if they are going to lie about it on their listing. I don't purchase any cds or lps on Ebay unless it is of actual photos in the listing. I stay away from the stock image in the listings.


If they're sealed, Amazon might not be aware that they are being supplied with CD-Rs by the labels, if that is what they're choosing to manufacture these days.

So if people keep complaining and sending them back, with return reasons such as "fake CD" or "CD-R not specified in product description", then at least maybe they'll complain to their suppliers and word will get back to the originators and they'll give in and disclose this information when supplying goods for Amazon to sell to customers.

They're probably just adopting Amazon USA's "Manufacture on Demand" service... if it's good enough for Amazon, then it's good enough for the labels. But this hasn't really made inroads to the same extent in the UK / Europe (yet), because Amazon in those regions don't (yet) offer the CD-R MoD service.

But I've also found some other music being made available on CD-Rs recently, made by the label, sealed, and supplied as stock for Amazon to sell. These were a couple of old albums by obscure rock bands, presumably because they didn't think the demand was there for those early albums in a band's discography to be re-pressed properly. So that doesn't help with places like eBay or Discogs, if sealed CD-Rs are being widely distributed, and those re-sellers are selling them new and sealed without realising.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I seriously think you guys should get over this. These on-demand cd's are not the evil things you imagine them to be.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I seriously think you guys should get over this. These on-demand cd's are not the evil things you imagine them to be.


You think this is bad? You should hear them complain about digipacks.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I seriously think you guys should get over this. These on-demand cd's are not the evil things you imagine them to be.


You think this is bad? You should hear them complain about digipacks.


You think that's bad, I got a cdr in a digipack!wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2016 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I seriously think you guys should get over this. These on-demand cd's are not the evil things you imagine them to be.


You think this is bad? You should hear them complain about digipacks.


LOL

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2016 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

I seriously think you guys should get over this. These on-demand cd's are not the evil things you imagine them to be.


You think this is bad? You should hear them complain about digipacks.


Watch it, buddy, I resemble that accusation! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2017 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)

What are the labels (Intrada, Varese etc) view on CDRs? Would they be willing to repress CDrs as proper CDs in limited numbers? Do the labels see CDRs as a way to reduce costs? I've avoided CDrs as best I can. The only CDr that I own is the Hulk, which was the only CD format available.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2017 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   babbelballetje   (Member)

What are the labels (Intrada, Varese etc) view on CDRs? Would they be willing to repress CDrs as proper CDs in limited numbers? Do the labels see CDRs as a way to reduce costs? I've avoided CDrs as best I can. The only CDr that I own is the Hulk, which was the only CD format available.

I think the costs are more in artwork, license, than the production of the actual cd. So probably around the same costs, but less buyers, because we don't like cdr's.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2017 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   babbelballetje   (Member)

What are the labels (Intrada, Varese etc) view on CDRs? Would they be willing to repress CDrs as proper CDs in limited numbers? Do the labels see CDRs as a way to reduce costs? I've avoided CDrs as best I can. The only CDr that I own is the Hulk, which was the only CD format available.

I think the costs are more in artwork, license, than the production of the actual cd. So probably around the same costs, but less buyers, because we don't like cdr's.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2017 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

What are the labels (Intrada, Varese etc) view on CDRs? Would they be willing to repress CDrs as proper CDs in limited numbers? Do the labels see CDRs as a way to reduce costs? I've avoided CDrs as best I can. The only CDr that I own is the Hulk, which was the only CD format available.

I think the costs are more in artwork, license, than the production of the actual cd. So probably around the same costs, but less buyers, because we don't like cdr's.


'We' -- as in 'you'.

That said, I rather have lossless download than a cd-r.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2017 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

'We' -- as in 'you'.

Well, him and the vast majority of this board. wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

'We' -- as in 'you'.

Well, him and the vast majority of this board. wink



I would love to see that polled. It's very likely rather the 'loudest minority'.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2017 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   babbelballetje   (Member)

'We' -- as in 'you'.

Well, him and the vast majority of this board. wink



I would love to see that polled. It's very likely rather the 'loudest minority'.


I did mean "we" don't like cdr's. And saying it in a loud protesting annoying voicesmile

 
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