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 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I just received DEEP IMPACT, THE SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES and THE SPITFIRE GRILL and they were all cdrs! It didn't say anything about them being cdrs when I ordered them. It made me so mad I almost threw them out!

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I'd be curious if you bought them from another seller and they gave you CDR cheaply made stuff. If you went through Amazon I believe they are solid CD's. I can't seem to find a place that says these are now Disc On Demands (CDR's). Sorry Henry frown I only looked into Deep Impact btw.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I'd be curious if you bought them from another seller and they gave you CDR cheaply made stuff. If you went through Amazon I believe they are solid CD's. I can't seem to find a place that says these are now Disc On Demands (CDR's). Sorry Henry frown I only looked into Deep Impact btw.

Hi my friend!smileI bought all three from merchants on Amazon, I just assumed they'd be cds, they didn't say they were cdrs. BTW, I just ordered the James Horner tribute concert on Blu-ray, I can't wait to watch it, Horner is one of my favorites.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I ordered the George Foreman Grill, and it too was a CD-R. What is going on with Amazon?

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Its Sony Music. They are going in that direction

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I much prefer a pressed CD, but, the Amazon On Demand CDR's I gotten have been great quality. But it is understandable being upset since you thought they'd be original CDs.


You should be able to return them though.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

You should ask for a refund. With all looking good on the outside, and assuming they were sealed, the merchants may honestly not have known their items were CD-R. It's happened to me before. It's a false description either way.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm fine with CD-Rs, but I do agree that if they didn't tell you in advance, you should be able to get your money back.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback.smileI think I will follow up with these.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I'm fine with CD-Rs, but I do agree that if they didn't tell you in advance, you should be able to get your money back.

I agree. If that's all we got I'll take it, but it would be nice to say it on the listing. I looked on the Deep Impact page, but could not find Amazon's usual CD On Demand wording. Maybe a note to Amazon letting them know to put a little note on the product page to list this as a CDR might help another buyer in the future.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I'm fine with CD-Rs, but I do agree that if they didn't tell you in advance, you should be able to get your money back.

I agree. If that's all we got I'll take it, but it would be nice to say it on the listing. I looked on the Deep Impact page, but could not find Amazon's usual CD On Demand wording. Maybe a note to Amazon letting them know to put a little note on the product page to list this as a CDR might help another buyer in the future.


That would be difficult though because they're selling it on the same page as the original album, which was a pressed CD. I wonder if it's being sold under the same ISBN number. If so, since most copies for sale on the page are probably old copies of the pressed CD, a note like that would only make things more confusing. They really should sell it under a totally different listing, but that will never happen.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   Wasn'tTheBird   (Member)

I don't have a lot of CDRs but a couple of them have deteriorated & are now unplayable. What I want to know is what is the expected lifespan of them?

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2016 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I don't have a lot of CDRs but a couple of them have deteriorated & are now unplayable. What I want to know is what is the expected lifespan of them?

As I've written here: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=79577&forumID=1&archive=0

Current cd-r's last a lifetime. Estimated 70-200 years. Factory pressed cd's will last longer, probably though. Nobody is certain how long. When the cd's were introduced the estimated lifespan was 10-25 years. Fortunately my '82-bought Chariots of Fire still plays. (some factory cd's I bought in the mid-nineties do not, by the way.) Current estimations for factory-cd's vary from 100 to 300. The silver colored phthalocyanine on-demand cd's - which nowhere near comparable to the cheapest cd-r! - will last long, and probably longer.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 12:35 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The only CD-Rs I've owned that have ever failed are those that had labels applied to the tops (which we all now know is a very bad idea).

However, I have had two regular pressed CDs that have failed. One was actually the MCA "Ten Commandments," so as of this week I no longer care. The CD appeared pristine -- no sign of scratches or dirt (and I cleaned it several times in the proper way) -- and all players accepted the disc as a working disc… but when I pressed "PLAY," the music broke up and was unlistenable.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   Wasn'tTheBird   (Member)

Thanks guys good to know. I guess it was just bad luck that mine have deteriorated, but I have had a very few factory pressed CDs die as well.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   DynoDux   (Member)

Its Sony Music. They are going in that direction

Not in Europe... Sony Classical produce outstanding releases here in the UK; back in the 90s it was always Varese Sarabande that could be relied upon to represent scores on the high street, now they're virtually impossible to find... Sony Classical are often the only score albums you'll find here without ordering from Amazon.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Oooops....I seem to have stumbled into the 90s. big grin

Seriously, sorry to hear about your bad luck, henry. I'd contact the merchants and ask for a refund.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I'd be curious if you bought them from another seller and they gave you CDR cheaply made stuff. If you went through Amazon I believe they are solid CD's. I can't seem to find a place that says these are now Disc On Demands (CDR's). Sorry Henry frown I only looked into Deep Impact btw.

Hi my friend!smileI bought all three from merchants on Amazon, I just assumed they'd be cds, they didn't say they were cdrs. BTW, I just ordered the James Horner tribute concert on Blu-ray, I can't wait to watch it, Horner is one of my favorites.


You can return them, Henry. Amazon guarantees the sales.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

I mentioned on a previous thread ("X-Men: Apocalypse", I think) about how the same these CDs tend to have the same barcode on the back, even though the Amazon USA version was a CD-R compared to a legitimate pressed CD at Amazon UK.

It's really annoying, especially when Amazon UK itself charges much more than some of the marketplace sellers, but the potential of getting an American CD-R from one of those sellers makes me wary of ordering from them (because it's easier to return items to Amazon itself).

Anyone who gets a CD-R can return it, and I would even mention something like "fake CD" in the return reason. Surely at some point Sony would get some feedback from Amazon about the goods they're providing. The least they can do is market the product with a different barcode, as they're clearly two different products.

What happens when these get on the open market like eBay or Discogs, and people are advertising "still sealed" items, and not realising what they're selling.

I bet even places like China would counterfeit these as proper pressed CDs. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2016 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

GNP do some CDRs ditto with Cometa, No CDR is a good, Henry send them back buddy they have very limited life.

 
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