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 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

So, now that Ford Thaxton got the thread (above) locked about a problem with this disc, no one will know about it.

I pretty sure you can thank the conduct of Basil the Fanboy for getting that Thread locked, he clearly was the reason why it did.

This is the only Varese title I ordered (which I have not received yet) and I am finding out there is a problem! Great!!! #$%@#$#!

I do think you are blowing this way out of portion.

Yes, there is some tape damage for about three seconds that got by VARESE on Track 3 of Disc #1....

But on balance, the over 2 HOUR 2 CD SET sounds pretty good for a mono recording of a TV Score from the period.

This probelm is Annoying, but I've heard worse.

Should VARESE address the issue in some fashion, I would agree, if you wish to call them and bring the matter to their attention, their Phone Number is 818-753-4143.

I now really believe Varese is getting lazy as some others here have said. Maybe someone should stay home overlooking the business instead of running off to Krakow! I hope someone contacts Varese about the problem. I stopped calling them years ago because every time I did the phone would just ring and ring with no answer.

I've done business with this company for the last 32 years and if you call during NORMAL BUSINESSS HOURS (9:00am to 5:00pm) Monday-Friday PACIFIC TIME, they have have always answered the phone!

The owner of this company (Chris Kuchler) would never allow the phone to just RING and not answer it.

So you statement really is NOT very credible in my experiance.

With the rate the labels are trying to push titles out before the demise of the CD, are they just getting sloppy?

Erik, REALITY CHECK:

Every label (Major and Indie) on the planet at one time or another released a project that had some sort of defect on it, bad edits, wrong take,less then perfect sound,etc

It's something everyone tries to prevent, but we are all still human and things sometimes slip by.

Insulting VARESE in this case proves you have no idea what you are talking about.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

Well, Mr. Postman was on time this morning and just dropped my CD off. Yes it sounds like Cue #3 (Suite #2) does has some crinkled tape noise on it. Really sad. But, I guess I will have to wait awhile to contact Mr. Townsend since he is probably still in Krakow. I will call later this week, hoping that he will be back by then.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Well, Mr. Postman was on time this morning and just dropped my CD off. Yes it sounds like Cue #3 (Suite #2) does has some crinkled tape noise on it. Really sad. But, I guess I will have to wait awhile to contact Mr. Townsend since he is probably still in Krakow.

Or you can call VARESE and ask to speak with someone like the OWNER, Mr. Chris Kuchler and mention the problem.

It's just a thought.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Simon Underwood   (Member)

Meh. I've got this CD on order. If I get it and find said disturbance too irritating, I know how to fix it for my iPod and I'll be happy with that.

The idea that companies are doing poor standard work when they using materials probably played last 20 years before I was born... it's a little cracked, isn't it? This is is old, rare tape, and I refuse to see a 3 second problem in 2+ hours of this type of thing as something to get stoked up about.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Meh. I've got this CD on order. If I get it and find said disturbance too irritating, I know how to fix it for my iPod and I'll be happy with that.


I found it irritating:
http://www.wikiupload.com/F2467IVYS19DXQ1

So like you, I decided to fix it for my iPod:
http://www.wikiupload.com/SNSWR98KLPR4TCK

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Meh. I've got this CD on order. If I get it and find said disturbance too irritating, I know how to fix it for my iPod and I'll be happy with that.


I found it irritating:
http://www.wikiupload.com/F2467IVYS19DXQ1

So like you, I decided to fix it for my iPod:
http://www.wikiupload.com/SNSWR98KLPR4TCK


And post something you don't have the right to do so, you really don't get it do you?


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

For the record (who keeps these mysterious records anyway?), the other AH thread wasn't closed due to Ford's posts, but the collective arguing and pissing that was occurring in the thread. Let's not repeat that here. The issue has been raised, there's lots of disagreement, but let's just accept that people don't see eye to eye and move on.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67697&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

How`s the music? John [who grew up with a black and white tv on which he watched movies shot in color, cut for tv, interrupted with commercials, and with an AM radio with poor staticky reception, yet somehow became a massive fan of movies and music]

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

I'm easy, I'll just be happy when mine finally ships...warts and all!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   JackBlu78   (Member)

I'm easy, I'll just be happy when mine finally ships...warts and all!

Same here I ordered about $140.00 worth of club titles and the order still hasn't shipped (that I am aware)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2012 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

Meh. I've got this CD on order. If I get it and find said disturbance too irritating, I know how to fix it for my iPod and I'll be happy with that.

The idea that companies are doing poor standard work when they using materials probably played last 20 years before I was born... it's a little cracked, isn't it? This is is old, rare tape, and I refuse to see a 3 second problem in 2+ hours of this type of thing as something to get stoked up about.


It is great that they resurrected some older scores. I am not a record producer and do not want to be one (figure Ford will have something great for response to this, but he's blocked), but come on, how many times do you really listen to a release you are working on? Any record producer that knows his stuff would have heard this problem the first, if not the second time through and fixed it, if it is that easy to fix! That is my complaint. So, how many times did they listen to this? We now have non-record producers who are able to fix the problem for themselves. I do not have that type of equipment or programs, let alone time to take on a project, so I will always have the glitch! Since they asked us (1000 people) for $30 each for this release, you would think that they would want it to go out the best it could be the first time! That is why I think the labels are pushing through too many releases too fast. They missed it, they did not take the time this release needed for a proper release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I phoned Varese - they said the blip was on the original tapes, and they decided to leave it uncorrected. Case closed. Can we just accept their editorial decision and move past it now?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Can we just accept their editorial decision and move past it now?

Of course we can.
I chose not to accept it and easily fixed it in a few minutes, but that doesn't mean Varese was obliged to go to that amount of trouble.
Matter closed as far as I'm concerned. Apart from that issue, the set is superb.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

Case closed. Can we just accept their editorial decision and move past it now?

We have to accept the decision, what choice do we have? We just have to live with it!
Thanks for calling, that was on my list for tomorrow. Guess I will have to start waiting
until I hear this kind of news before I purchase anymore releases from any label. In
this case it would have sold out while I was waiting. Limited editions #$%$#@#$!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2012 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Can we just accept their editorial decision and move past it now?
Of course we can.
I chose not to accept it and easily fixed it in a few minutes,


I suggested we accept their editorial decision, not the music as it is.wink I'm sure many of us will make our own tweaks, and I'm glad you made us aware of it (and that it's fixable). I sometimes copy my CDs to rearrange the track order, so copying a CD to edit one cue isnt a huge deal.

LATER:
Just got the cds. A nice variety of 1960s scores. I actually didnt notice the brief flutter, probably because the scores are repetitive and ambient, not dramatic. I'm glad to know it was the tape (not a cd defect) but isnt worth fixing for myself.
I'd have preferred more conventional scores over the crime/romance jazz on disc 2, but that's personal taste.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2012 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

I'm almost finished listening to the set. Groovin' out to Lalo Schifrin at the moment. The sound quality and arrangement of tracks is very good. Whatever deficiencies I've heard in the recording have been very minor and pass quickly. I'm really happy to have this in my collection. Thanks VS!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2012 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

A small observation relating to the notes... the booklet tracklist credits the "Beast in View" suites as being "Composed and Conducted by Leonard Rosenman. However, the notes mention that this score was conducted by Stanley Wilson.
Only of any consequence if, like me, you like to list both composers and conductors in iTunes or suchlike.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2012 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

A small observation relating to the notes... the booklet tracklist credits the "Beast in View" suites as being "Composed and Conducted by Leonard Rosenman. However, the notes mention that this score was conducted by Stanley Wilson.
Only of any consequence if, like me, you like to list both composers and conductors in iTunes or suchlike.


good eye cool

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2012 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

A small observation relating to the notes... the booklet tracklist credits the "Beast in View" suites as being "Composed and Conducted by Leonard Rosenman. However, the notes mention that this score was conducted by Stanley Wilson.
Only of any consequence if, like me, you like to list both composers and conductors in iTunes or suchlike.



The liner notes also infer that the Benny Carter piece was conducted by Stanley Wilson...

 
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