I don´t want Williams´ theme incorporated (I love it too much, it is too wonderful and connected to the other "Superman"-films).
And since this is a re-boot it deserves a fresh approach. I sincerely hope Zimmer will be up to this challenge and make this different from his BATMAN scores.
The question is: will we get a real theme for SUPERMAN - or is this something that the new film does not support, something that audiences nowadays would laugh at? Getting SUPERMAN, the character, right is tricky enough. But let´s wait until we actually can see/hear it.
We'll see what kind of "theme" Zimmer can come up with. I don't consider his Batman scores to have a central theme (nothing close to what Elfman or Williams did), so there's no point of trying to compare. Let's just hope there is some musical structure to the score. In my opinion, James Newton Howard saved the Batman Begins and Dark Knight scores from sounding like every other new score with his thematic material. He would be one I would love to see score Superman!
This could be really interesting. The main problem with Ottman's score for me was that he stuck too closely to the themes Williams composed. I know Batman Begins doesn't get a lot of love on these boards but for me it "fits" Nolan's version of Batman and who is to say that Zimmer's score won't fit Synder's world. I don't think an Elfmanesque score would have been appropriate for Nolan's films.
I'm not a big fan of Synder's films and I bet that if the film has problems, Zimmer's score will be the least of them. Let's hope that both films and score are fantastic.
Anyway, how fresh a re-boot is this going to be, if General Zod and the gang are in it?
Good point!
But Nolan being involved in the script, or at least the story, is a point of confidence I think.
If they are good enough to put some good jokes in there, that is. Even with a profound psicological story, Superman was never as troubled as other superheroes... My opinion of course
When this film bombs because they think copying THE DARK KNIGHT equals success for everything, I shall laugh.
We haven't even seen a trailer, so who are you to put words in people's mouths?
It could very well be entertaining. Donner's 1978 Superman film and Williams' fantastic score isn't going away anytime soon.
I don't see anyone complaining about The Avengers being a two-hour ad for Dr. Pepper and Marvel Comics (and its previous installments being basically trailers for The Avengers), so why would they complain about Man of Steel copying The Dark Knight?
And to further show this, people complained about The Hulk for being different than Spider-Man. Comic book fans don't want anything new brought to the table. They are scared of different stories (also see the 2004 version of The Punisher and Watchmen).
When this film bombs because they think copying THE DARK KNIGHT equals success for everything, I shall laugh.
They won't be 'copying TDK' because Christopher Nolan is a smarter writer than that. Each of his films has been unique and each one has a different psychological premise, so there's no reason to think that Superman will be any different. Nolan is an amazing writer and Snyder is an excellent visual storyteller, so I for one am looking forward to this.
When this film bombs because they think copying THE DARK KNIGHT equals success for everything, I shall laugh.
They won't be 'copying TDK' because Christopher Nolan is a smarter writer than that. Each of his films has been unique and each one has a different psychological premise, so there's no reason to think that Superman will be any different. Nolan is an amazing writer and Snyder is an excellent visual storyteller, so I for one am looking forward to this.
Christopher Nolan is smart, but sooner or later, every good director is involved with or makes a bad film. Trust me, Nolan's day is coming. It could even be THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.
Im a huge fan of the original Superman movies and ( Of Course ) Williams music.However, i am glad that a new approach is being taken with Superman including discarding the original themes.Its a reboot and that means a brand new musical approach.I loved Zimmers work on the Nolan Batman films and hope he brings us something heroic and muscular for The Man Of steel.
One of the reasons Superman Returns was such a colossal failure was it was too much in awe of the Donner film and had no identity of its own.Ottmans score was horrible ( Way too much choir used just like in all his work ).
Personally i would have liked to see John Powell get the job but with Zimmer, Superman is in good hands.
John Powell would have been worse than Zimmer. The guy has no musical identity (and his one good score, Rio, is basically a Silvestri retread).
Actually, I would have preferred John Powell on a project like this just because I've enjoyed his music much more over the last several years than Zimmer's work over the same time period. I'm also still put off by his remark once regarding Elfman's "heroic bull&#$!" for Batman. Superman is a different ball game as compared to Batman and Zimmer may have to employ some heroic bull%$#@ afterall. In any case, I still look forward to hearing what he comes up with; nothing wrong with a fresh approach.
If it weren't for Nolan, DC's entire film output would be DOA after Superman Returns and Green Lantern. This film has an awful lot to prove after Snyder's SUCKER PUNCH fiasco and Marvel's triumphant last couple of years...and musically too, especially after Horner's dazzling Spider-Man score.
Zimmer is in a tough spot...if he does anything other than his usual, recent bag of tricks I'll be surprised. Then again, that'd be preferable to how Ottman ruined Williams' themes the last time out.
