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 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I much prefer the suites on the multi-volume sets over the ones on the 40th anniversary set.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

This is the Final guide, previous versions had some mistakes. Is the Earthquake cue placed wrong? All the music is there though..

All tracks are La La Land 40th Anniversary Set Disk 1 (Better sound)unless otherwise noted(**):

A)The Reluctant Stowaway.

1-Lost in Space:Main title Season 1
2-Smith's Entrance
3-**JUDO CHOP(Irwin Allen Box Set Disk 1:Smith's Evening/Judo Chop/On the Pad/Count Down:2.47-4.11)
4-Final Countdown
5-Escape Velocity/Meteor Sorm
6-**ROBOT CONTROL(Irwin Allen Box Set Disk 1:Escape Velocity/Robot Control/Meteor Storm Defrosting:2.24-3.34)
7-Weightless Waltz
8-Monster Rebels
9-Walk in Space /To Be continued
10-**ALTERNATE TO BE CONTINUED (Irwin Allen Set Disk 1 The Monster Rebels/A Walk in Space/Finale:7.13-End)
11-End Titles Season 1

B)Island in the Sky

12-Strange Planet/John's Decent
13-**SUITING UP(Irwin Allen Box Set Disk 1 Suiting Up/Stranglehold/The Landing/Search for John:0.00-2.06)
14-Strangle Hold/Landing
15-Helmet It
16-Lil' Will and the Robot
17-Search for John
18-Monkey's Doo
19-Operation Rescue
20-Personnal Chauffeur/Electric Sagebrush/Will Threatened


C)The Hungry Sea

21-Earthquake
22-**CHARIOT TITLES (Irwin Allen Box Set Disk 1 Chariot Titles/Farenheight a GoGo/Chariot Continues/SunStorm:0.00-1.05)
23-**FARENHEIGHT A GO-GO (Irwin Allen Box Set Disk 1 Chariot Titles/Farenheight a GoGo/Chariot Continues/SunStorm:1.05-2.36)
24-Rising Temperature/Boring Company/Don's Ray's
25-Warming Rays/Sun Storm
26-**MORNING AFTER AND THE INLAND SEA(Irwin Allen Box Set Disk 1:Morning After/the Inland Sea/Land Ho/Strange Visitor:0.00-5.27)
27-Land Ho/Kids Play Off


D)My Friend Mr Nobody

28-Lost in Space :Main Titles Season 3
29-Lost in Space:Season 3 Bumper
30-Wonderland Discovery(LaLaLand Track 20 Edit)
31-**HAIRSTYLE BOOK/PENNY'S FRIEND/DIAMONDS/DIAMOND PLAY OFF(Irwin Allen Vol. 3 Track 13)
32-**PENNY'S CAVE/TO THE CAVE(Irwin Allen Vol. 3, Track 14 Edit)
33-Gathering Wildflowers (LaLaLand Track 20 Edit)
34-**MOVING ROCKS (Irwin Allen Vol. 3, Track 14 Edit)
35-**MOTHER AND DAUGHTER (Irwin Allen Vol. 3,Track 15 Edit)
36-Penny's Problem(LaLaLand Track 20 Edit)
37-**STORM COMING(Irwin Allen LIS Vol 3 Track 16 , 0.00-1.30)
38-A New Galaxy(LaLaLand track 21 Edit)
39-End Titles Season 3

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

@ king mark- Sweet! Thanks a lot. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I'd like to see a list using the original multi-volume set scores and showing which segments from the 40th anniversary set need to be integrated into those.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

Well, the Irwin Allen set is mono and has poor sound quality, so I don't know why you'd want to do that. Better use as little of it as possible

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

This is the Final guide, previous versions had some mistakes. Is the Earthquake cue placed wrong? All the music is there though..

Hi, king mark. I just played my pre-recorded video of The Hungry Sea to make sure. "Earthquake" plays over the teaser, before the main title. So it should be listed first. [Edit: okay, you've gone back and corrected the sequence. Thanks.]

Incidentally, the teaser itself lasts 2:45, meaning Williams scored it wall-to-wall with "Earthquake." smile And the "Chariot Titles" music starts immediately after the main title.

Man, I love "The Hungry Sea."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2013 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   king mark   (Member)

The Earthquake music is when they're stuck in a cave or something? I haven't watched the episode in a long time. I have the whole series on DVD. Now I feel like re-watching everything, it's still a great show after so many years

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2013 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The Earthquake music is when they're stuck in a cave or something? I haven't watched the episode in a long time. I have the whole series on DVD. Now I feel like re-watching everything, it's still a great show after so many years

Yes, in the pre-credit sequence they're in a massive cavern filled with ancient structures carved out of stone. Will, Penny, Don, and Judy are trapped in a dark little room. John is trying to cut them out of there with his laser pistol even as a long and powerful earthquake threatens to bring down the whole cavern on their heads. It's great.

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2013 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Man, I love "The Hungry Sea."

Yes, great episode and great score (original and tracked cues). Both are perhaps my LiS favorites.

If only all the library cues used could be identified, but the sfx are often too loud to hear the music.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2013 - 4:40 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Well, the Irwin Allen set is mono and has poor sound quality, so I don't know why you'd want to do that. Better use as little of it as possible

I prefer mono over fake stereo.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2013 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

New in my collection - LOST IN SPACE Vol. 3 (GNP Crescendo) -

As I mentioned above, I recently got Season 1 of the show on DVD (it was cheap), and was very impressed by the score for "The Derelict". On CD it still reminds me a lot of Herman Stein's scores for the '50s SF cycle rather than anything particularly "Lost in Space", but that's why I bought the thing anyway. I hadn't realised how much of the score was actually by Hans Salter and Richard LaSalle - I'd noticed before that one particular LaSalle moment was a short, drippy string passage, but on CD it's more than evident how much he's really just adapting the John Williams music (and not just the robot theme), plus leaning heavily on the Herrmann stock cues... To be charitable, I don't really think that Mr LaSalle ever found his own voice in films, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

If the LaSalle cues sound old-fashioned, the Salter pieces seem even more of a throwback, some of them at least. There's an ear-openly strident "horror" cue, plus a jaunty march that would have been corny even in a zero-budget '50s SF movie, but there are also moments of almost exquisite beauty from the same composer. It's almost hypnotically odd in places. I might be recalling some of the even older Universal Frankenstein/ Dracula fare here, but its presence in "Lost in Space" is almost so strange as to be beautiful.

And then there are the Herman Stein bits. Great great great. Williams really defined the show soundwise (I think), but the Stein cues are wonderful. Again, more (good) '50s film SF than '60s TV SF, but splendid music anyway. I believe that Herman Stein was every bit as pivotal and iconic in his field as Leith Stevens.

QUESTION 1 - Is there a more extensive recording of Stein's memorable "Family" theme on any of the other CDs out there? I've heard it with a "B" part in one or two episodes so far, but I don't know if they are as Stein originally intended, or adaptations by other composers assigned to the series.

QUESTION 2 - "The Derelict" is a composite score. Excuse my ignorance, but does that mean that the Salter, Stein and LaSalle pieces were drawn from a library? It's a very early episode to have a library score, but you tell me - I'm eager to learn.

Ah! The Williams score on the CD, for "My Friend Mr Nobody" is enchanting. That's next in line for me to watch. I must say, I'm enjoying Season 1 of "Lost in Space" quite a lot. It's marginally less silly than I expected (although Warren Oates was a cowboy in today's show), and generally less cringeworthy than "The Six Million Dollar Man". Oh! That reminds me -

QUESTION 3 - The one I saw today ("Welcome Stranger") made use of a kind of ponderous variation on THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN theme, although it sounded more like SHANE because it wasn't an action cue. The score was credited to Herman Stein. Was that a Stein piece?

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2013 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Very wise purchase, Graham. LIS Volume 3 is an absolute necessity for the Williams material alone. "The Derelict" comes with it as a nice, big bonus.


QUESTION 1 - Is there a more extensive recording of Stein's memorable "Family" theme on any of the other CDs out there? I've heard it with a "B" part in one or two episodes so far, but I don't know if they are as Stein originally intended, or adaptations by other composers assigned to the series.

The full-length Family theme is on the 40th Anniversary set, in the "Welcome, Stranger" suite (Disc 2, Track 5). It plays surprisingly long due to a melodic bridge in the middle that contrasts with the familiar part.



Ah! The Williams score on the CD, for "My Friend Mr Nobody" is enchanting. That's next in line for me to watch. I must say, I'm enjoying Season 1 of "Lost in Space" quite a lot. It's marginally less silly than I expected...

Tonight on MeTV they showed "The Magic Mirror," which is tracked with a lot of "Nobody." I was blown away by how much I enjoyed the episode. The music is great even when cut into pieces for tracking. And then there's Angela Cartwright. She isn't just adorable. Her acting demonstrates that she can easily carry the show, making it a shame they so seldom gave her the chance. I mean, here's an episode without Will or the Robot, and you don't even miss them.

Dramatic black and white cinematography and exotic decoration add to the mysterious air of the mirror's hidden world, making the affordable, "blacked-out soundstage" setting vastly more effective here than it would be in any color episode of LIS, or Star Trek for that matter.


Angela Cartwright shines in "The Magic Mirror."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2013 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Thanks Zap. Yes, it was "Welcome, Stranger" that I watched yesterday. Warren Oates as a cowboy. When he's first seen standing on top of that rock I thought he was supposed to be a GIANT cowboy - but that would have been silly. It's in that episode that I heard the extended "family" theme - I'd forgotten that a suite of the score was on the 40th Anniversary set (which I don't have). The "parody" I mentioned earlier of THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/ SHANE must be on that suite, is that right? The score as a whole is credited to both Herman Stein and Frank Comstock.

Anyone got any idea as to the source of the Salter/ Stein/ LaSalle pieces for ┬ĚThe Derelict"? I've only seen the first few episodes, but apart from Stein's "Family" theme I don't think that much of the other stuff was heard again. Put me right on that one if need be. Was it all actuallly written for "The Derelict"? Seems a bit odd if so. Library cues or actual cues lifted from earlier movies?

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2013 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The "parody" I mentioned earlier of THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/ SHANE must be on that suite, is that right?

I don't know those film themes, so I can't say.

Anyone got any idea as to the source of the Salter/ Stein/ LaSalle pieces for "The Derelict"?

I always assumed it was written either for "The Derelict" or as LIS library cues, because lifted cues like the flying jetpack (Beneath the 12-Mile Reef) didn't get cleared for LIS CDs.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2013 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Thanks again, Zap. You don't know THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN theme? Good sense of humour there, man. I'd say it's marginally more famous than, say, LOST IN SPACE!

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2013 - 4:28 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Thanks again, Zap. You don't know THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN theme? Good sense of humour there, man. I'd say it's marginally more famous than, say, LOST IN SPACE!

I guess I'm not a classic Westerns guy. I finally saw THE SEARCHERS a couple of weeks ago, and can't recall the music. I love HIGH NOON and THE QUICK AND THE DEAD (1995), though. Those are some smokin' hot scores.

I found THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN theme on youtube and yeah, I've heard it many times, just not in the actual movie. It was used in MOONRAKER, for instance. smile

"Welcome, Stranger" apparently pays brief homage to THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN during Don's fistfight with Hapgood. It comes in at the 12-minute mark of the 40th Anniversary suite.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2013 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Anyone got any idea as to the source of the Salter/ Stein/ LaSalle pieces for ┬ĚThe Derelict"? I've only seen the first few episodes, but apart from Stein's "Family" theme I don't think that much of the other stuff was heard again. Put me right on that one if need be. Was it all actuallly written for "The Derelict"? Seems a bit odd if so. Library cues or actual cues lifted from earlier movies?

The music for the episode was written especially for it, yes. Some of it wasn't reused, but that's not altogether strange. This happens on a lot of shows of the era, the cues just don't fut what is going on in later episodes.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2013 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Interesting, Scott. Thanks. So does that mean that "The Derelict" was written "to picture"? If so, it's a bit strange that we've got LaSalle, Salter and Stein all mixed up in the same cues. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you - do you mean that the composers wrote those pieces with the episode in mind, but then the music editors made the final concoction?

 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2013 - 4:33 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

some of La Salle's cues were in THE TIME TRAVELERS(64), THE DAY MARS INVADED EARTH, and other films he scored. They do sound slightly re-recorded on LIS, compared to the films.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 2, 2013 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

some of La Salle's cues were in THE TIME TRAVELERS(64), THE DAY MARS INVADED EARTH, and other films he scored. They do sound slightly re-recorded on LIS, compared to the films.

What do you mean when you say that they sound "slightly re-recorded?" Do you mean that they overdubbed additional parts onto the original recordings?

 
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