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 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

What a weird discussion here. I mean Paradise is an incredibly touching and melodic americana score for a beautiful film by one of Hollywood`s best composers performed by the best musicians in the world. Sorry, but I simply don`t get some of the posts here.

Thanks Intrada for releasing this masterpiece!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Totally agree with counterpoint.
This is a lush and lovely score by Newman that deserves to sell well.
I hope all the people who chime in here, moaning about how bad modern scores are/have become and longing for the old days, will give it a go. It's a beaut of a score.
By contrast, Folk's poppy, preppy and quite lovely score will make a nice change/alt listen.
I love the Geek track that emulates that late 60's/early 70's Pat Metheny sound and it does have some nice orchestral love moments too.
This CD will be part of my next order.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

I have not played SLIPSTREAM since after I read that it might have an issue, and I am still waiting to hear any news so I can listen to it again or toss it.

Kim Tong


Are you serious or only jerking us off...I mean nobody can be that XXXX

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

PARADISE...one of the few Newman *ahem* I could never get my hands on. Beautiful samples. Pity that Newman doesn't get to write music like this...or anything these days.

CAN'T BUY ME LOVE...I've seen the film quite a bit the last few years (thank you, Oxygen and ABC Family). Not one of the great Folk scores, but pleasant enough.

This is a welcome release.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

Intrada (and the other lables) pay their taxes. Consumers don't. They are individuals and can operate their business how they see fit. It is Intrada's decision to release what they want (and what they want to try and get the rights to release). Yes if the consumer doesn't buy, they go out of bussiness. The free market system works. Capitalism ! If you don't like it, don't buy it. Really simple. Filmscore fans are lucky that these smaller labels care about the consumer and they love what they do. Keep up the great work Intrada, LaLa Land, Kritzerland, Buysoundtrax ect.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)


For those that don't like that 1987 sound to Folks CBML, you either are too young, or too old. I was th e perfect age to enjoy this film in 1987 and the score fits the time period and the movie perfectly. This movie didn't need a huge orchestral score. It needed what Robert delivered and might I add was told to deliver. It's a great score with some truly lovely beautiful writing. Give it a chancesmile


You hit the nail on the head!!

OMG! Listening to the Can't Buy Me Love samples, I had forgotten how much I loved the music in this movie.

I am SO ordering this!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

I'm excited to hear this release. The samples for each film sound great. You can't go wrong with some more "Folk" music. Now bring on Police Academy (just waiting La La Land)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

I have not played SLIPSTREAM since after I read that it might have an issue, and I am still waiting to hear any news so I can listen to it again or toss it.

Kim Tong


Are you serious or only jerking us off...I mean nobody can be that XXXX


Until I hear from some other person besides Robin E. that everything is been taken care of to make this a legal release it was stay un-played and if anyone thinks I am crazy, let it be. This is the only potential bootleg I have in my possession. Can you say that?

Collectors: This product is illegal, as I suspected from day one but just confirmed:
Robin Esterhammer licensed the publishing from the Bernstein estate but never
licensed the master or soundtrack rights from the film company.

A cease and desist is going out now.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Haha, Kim's funny.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I have not played SLIPSTREAM since after I read that it might have an issue, and I am still waiting to hear any news so I can listen to it again or toss it.

Kim Tong


Are you serious or only jerking us off...I mean nobody can be that XXXX


Until I hear from some other person besides Robin E. that everything is been taken care of to make this a legal release it was stay un-played and if anyone thinks I am crazy, let it be. This is the only potential bootleg I have in my possession. Can you say that?

Collectors: This product is illegal, as I suspected from day one but just confirmed:
Robin Esterhammer licensed the publishing from the Bernstein estate but never
licensed the master or soundtrack rights from the film company.

A cease and desist is going out now.

Lukas


If it's unopened then why not ask for your money back? You paid for an item thought to be legit at the time of purchase, play it. Or send it back for a refund. Why are you holding onto something that apparently makes you feel "dirty". confused

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yeah, I seriously doubt that THAT version of Slipstream is going to be OK to listen to ever again, so why be weird about it? Get rid of it!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

This is the only potential bootleg I have in my possession. Can you say that?

Yes I can. Whatever THAT proves...?

And stop with the high and mighty act if you can't even type the native language of the board you're using. It comes of as chintzy.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

This thread is getting way off course my fellow film score friends smile

For those that are upset about releases not being what they want. Please keep in mind, these labels have not nor will ever force any of us, myself included, to buy their scores. As well, there are a million other hobbies you can start if your interest in film music is dying out smile

Do I buy everything, well of course not. For me, financially it's been a tricky so I have to be extra careful. Am I grateful for everything whether it's a score I want or not, YOU BET! When I see a score released, let's say it's two Intrada scores that I listen to the samples, but just don't have a huge interest in acquiring, I LOVE hearing my fellow film score friends say how excited they are to get this and this was their holy grail and all of those positive things. If we could just for a moment, think about other people once in a blue moon the world would be a bit happier!

It seems at times, when let's say, Varese releases some club titles and if someone only likes 1 out of the 3, they will pout like a little spoiled child who didn't get his way. They wanted three scores so they could buy or want to buy, but instead are only getting one. Booooooo hooooooo. There are bigger problems in most likely all our lives then getting so fired up on these trivial things.

When I look at all these labels, I look back to all the scores they've given me over the years that I'm so so thankful for. Intrada with ALL those Horner titles. LLL for the John Morris stuff. Varese for giving us some of their older LP titles etc. etc. etc. I'll always be indebted to them all for making my ears so happy. So if they release a score that I may not want here and there, IT'S OK in my book. I'm happy with all the great stuff they've give me and us over the years. We've been so spoiled lately that we need to take a step back and be a little more grateful.

I'm sure we all have plenty of music to go back and listen to if by chance you don't like this or that new release. I know I sure do.

But again, what do I know, I'm just a nerdy film score fan smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

But again, what do I know, I'm just a nerdy film score fan smile

How strange! Your final thought echos exactly what I've always thought of you.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Save it for Bible camp, Jesus...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

If it's unopened then why not ask for your money back? You paid for an item thought to be legit at the time of purchase, play it. Or send it back for a refund. Why are you holding onto something that apparently makes you feel "dirty".

Refund? It has been too long and what would keep the dealer from reselling? If it is a boot, it will be thrown. If it turns out to be legal, then I will listen to it. We have waited how many years for this score to be released, I can wait a little longer. There are a few here that have no problems purchasing or owning boots, you can read read it in their posts.

I have just placed an order for PARADISE, don't know how much CBML will get played but PARADISE is a great score from what I can hear.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)



Refund? It has been too long and what would keep the dealer from reselling? If it is a boot, it will be thrown. If it turns out to be legal, then I will listen to it. We have waited how many years for this score to be released, I can wait a little longer. There are a few here that have no problems purchasing or owning boots, you can read read it in their posts.

I have just placed an order for PARADISE, don't know how much CBML will get played but PARADISE is a great score from what I can hear.


What would you do if it came out that Can't Buy Me Love was legit, but Paradise was unlicensed? What would you do then? How could you get to the Can't Buy Me Love tracks? How could you get there without acknowledging the existence of Paradise?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

What would you do if it came out that Can't Buy Me Love was legit, but Paradise was unlicensed? What would you do then? How could you get to the Can't Buy Me Love tracks? How could you get there without acknowledging the existence of Paradise?

Because Intrada knows what is needed to release a score CD. They do not cut corners!

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

What would you do if it came out that Can't Buy Me Love was legit, but Paradise was unlicensed? What would you do then? How could you get to the Can't Buy Me Love tracks? How could you get there without acknowledging the existence of Paradise?

Because Intrada knows what is needed to release a score CD. They do not cut corners!


And it's impossible -- the studio has to sign off on the Cd, and if they find it paired with another score that was not licensed, it would not be signed off on, and the CD release canned.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I'll be here whenever you catch up, Justin.

 
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