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 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

That's because Fallen Kingdom was (maybe Giacchino's first?) London recording, most likely.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Land Before Time is a fantastic score, and an amazing sounding recording to boot.

It's like a classical concert on CD (if that makes sense), and I can put that CD on any time, close my eyes and imagine the players in front of me.



Ah, I feel the same, the sonics, the performance, so good. The choral work on LBT too is so classic. It is such a rich score. His 80's work was so good.


I agree Horner was in his prime in the 80's. I really hope we get LBT in the near future. There's a huge chunk of music missing. Frankly the mix on the OST was terrible. The sound is very muddled. It really needs remastering as a whole.


Maybe this is on the map for expansion soon, hopefully. I am wondering now, the bluray of LBT sounds really good to my ears. I wonder if the track on the movie is better than the CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

That's because Fallen Kingdom was (maybe Giacchino's first?) London recording, most likely.

I think Jupiter Ascending was London, but I could be wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)


Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this change-up had something to do with Simon Rhodes producing his sessions from the late-80's onward, no...?


Simon Rhodes first worked with James Horner on Deep Impact, in 1998.

The 80s scores were done by Eric Tomlinson, Armin Steiner and Shawn Murphy for the most part.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I'm glad I'm not the only one to hate the sound quality of those recordings. I just can't listen to stuff like Deep Impact and Courage Under Fire because of it. I don't have the patience to strain my ears for 77 minutes. Those scores should be more luxurious experiences.

Compare the sound of The Spiderwick Chronicles to his earlier orchestral fantasy scores... yuck!

The Land Before Time sounds weak compared to An American Tail.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2018 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

Even late in the game, Amazing Spider-Man has a terrible recording.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

I'll be a dissenting voice and say I don't have a problem with the mixes on the scores mentioned, most I find comfortable listening. That's not to say the brighter sounding remasterings by Intrada/La-La Land, etc, aren't desirable (they are) but just that the original releases aren't, to my ears, bad.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   Epicnerdheroix   (Member)

Roger expanded his clue to read:

A 2-CD set from the late '80s features an expanded presentation of a film that's...how do I describe it, actually? Let's say this release sci-fi/fantasty epic in a tea cup is hot off the griddle and ready for you to move in! Oh and there was a slice of music that didn't make it into the film.


Everyone seems focused on the “tea cup” and “griddle” while ignoring the biggest giveaway of all - “ready for you to move in!” The whole plot of *batteries was a small group of residents being forced out of their old tenement building to make room for a new commercial complex. While I still believe Braveheart is his finest overall work, *batteries is my personal favorite by James Horner and even more so since I was born and raised in the same neighborhood featured in the film so I felt like I could relate to the characters.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

The clues point to *batteries not included, but the use of 'epic' is throwing me off. Pretty sure that movie wasn't an epic, and if you've seen the movie, you'd know this isn't open for debate.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   Epicnerdheroix   (Member)

The clues point to *batteries not included, but the use of 'epic' is throwing me off. Pretty sure that movie wasn't an epic, and if you've seen the movie, you'd know this isn't open for debate.

Maybe “epic” could be in regards to its use of special effects? While not nearly on the same scale as say something like the Star Wars films, seeing those little machines whiz by on the big screen in 1987 with lights flashing non-stop must have seemed “epic,” especially if you were a child. *batteries is still the safe choice, given more clues point to it than do not. Then again, I’m biased because it’s my James Horner holy grail! *fingers crossed*

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

I'm glad I'm not the only one to hate the sound quality of those recordings. I just can't listen to stuff like Deep Impact and Courage Under Fire because of it. I don't have the patience to strain my ears for 77 minutes. Those scores should be more luxurious experiences.

Compare the sound of The Spiderwick Chronicles to his earlier orchestral fantasy scores... yuck!

The Land Before Time sounds weak compared to An American Tail.


Courage Under Fire was a Shawn Murphy recording. It's actually one of my favorites both as a score and as a recording.

American Tail and Aliens were done quite closely by Tomlinson and even have that rather extreme wide stereo image of brass far to one side and strings far to the other.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

It's a similar frustration to the dry Giacchino sound (thank grop Fallen Kingdom accidentally got a great recording!).

It really isn't at all similar. I mean, maybe on the broadest possible terms that people can be frustrated by the mix something gets. But wow.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

It's a similar "Oh, it's a score by __________, I should subconsciously expect a crappy recording".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Nothing beats 80’s Horner. It will be a joy to triple dip for this one.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Nothing beats 80’s Horner. It will be a joy to triple dip for this one.

Triple dip? Batteries Not Included has only been released once. So it would make this a double dip.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Nothing beats 80’s Horner. It will be a joy to triple dip for this one.

Triple dip? Batteries Not Included has only been released once. So it would make this a double dip.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Nothing beats 80’s Horner. It will be a joy to triple dip for this one.

Triple dip? Batteries Not Included has only been released once. So it would make this a double dip.


Yup. I grew up in the eighties my friend. Soundtracks came out on something called cassettes back then. Then cds were invented and this one I had upgraded to cd for a double dip circa 1992ish. Man I feel old.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

American Tail and Aliens were done quite closely by Tomlinson and even have that rather extreme wide stereo image of brass far to one side and strings far to the other.

Is just my copy of An American Tail that sounds as if a huge, thick curtain was drapped over my speakers when I play it?

I used to own the LP and it sounded great, but for some reason the sound on the CD is truly craptacular. Very odd, because Aliens sounds great, at least to me.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2018 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)


Is just my copy of An American Tail that sounds as if a huge, thick curtain was drapped over my speakers when I play it?


It's not just you. Even the violin solos sound like they're being playing inside a heavily-soundproofed room fifty yards away. frown I would kill for properly remastered versions of An American Tail and The Land Before Time (with extra music, of course).

 
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