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 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor, what is your take on the score? I have to say I was surprised to see Southall giving it four stars, but it's the type of score you either take to or don't. Maybe seeing it in the context of the movie will make me appreciate it more, but on album it didn't quite take off for me.

Haven't heard it yet! Only the samples...I'll definitely chime in as soon as I have (I think it's on Spotify).

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

As a pianist myself, I abhor non-acoustic instrumentation and call synthesizers toy pianos.

I typically agree, willymcnilly, that actual instruments are the way to go. I also noticed that you and I do that same thing - Church pianist! Very cool. Have you played piano for a while?



To get back on track, I haven't heard the score yet (just samples), but I'll go see the movie when it hits theaters early May here in the US, and will see how the music works with and away from the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   willymcnilly   (Member)

As a pianist myself, I abhor non-acoustic instrumentation and call synthesizers toy pianos.

I typically agree, willymcnilly, that actual instruments are the way to go. I also noticed that you and I do that same thing - Church pianist! Very cool. Have you played piano for a while?


I've played piano for 32 years.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Devmo   (Member)

Maybe it's because I'm an Elfman fan, or maybe because I hear voices, but I kind of love those Electro-whispers. It's almost a perfect amalgam — the mock-classical orchestral oboe part representing the geek side of Electro's pre-super powers, mixed with the overpowering fuzz and grooves of dub-step for his villainous turn. The whispers are no less a motivational music device than a choir, female vocals, chorus, boy solo or solo instrument. There's only one composer who could get away with this and well, he has!

Whispering has been used before to great creepy effect - Kilar's Dracula comes to mind.

In this case, I dig the Williams-esque ostinato happening underneath, but I just can't get into the voice. What the voices are saying is too cheesy for me - it makes my skin crawl...

The rest of the score has some interesting moments, though.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)


In this case, I dig the Williams-esque ostinato happening underneath, but I just can't get into the voice. What the voices are saying is too cheesy for me - it makes my skin crawl...


Isn't that the point?

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)


In this case, I dig the Williams-esque ostinato happening underneath, but I just can't get into the voice. What the voices are saying is too cheesy for me - it makes my skin crawl...


Isn't that the point?

-Erik-


To me, I get what he was trying to do, but the chant is just too cheesy in English...

My two cents on the rest of the score: Big Baddie themes are a retread of Pirates 4. The main trumpet theme is played brilliantly by Sandoval, but doesn't seem to undergo any kind of development. I dig that he tried to go a "fun" direction with it, and maybe it works in the film, but on the album "fun" just comes across as way too cheesy, especially considering how brilliantly (I think) he conveyed a bittersweet sense of heroism in Man of Steel...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 9:59 PM   
 By:   Devmo   (Member)


In this case, I dig the Williams-esque ostinato happening underneath, but I just can't get into the voice. What the voices are saying is too cheesy for me - it makes my skin crawl...


Isn't that the point?

-Erik-


If the point was to take a page of poetry from a high-school goth kid's Hot Topic diary book and use it as lyrics, then it succeeds in spades. razz

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I think the voices in the Electro theme are absolutely spot on for the character. The phrases they repeat don´t have to be elaborate - they actually should not be. This is a simple guy feeling betrayed. That´s what they reflect.

I think Zimmer actually did a very interesting trick on this.

I only hope that this will not be copied by other composers in the future...

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

just listened to the very few cues.

the Spidey trumpet fanfare seems like a work of a 12-year old music student or something, after Copland's lesson of the month, later overproduced by his 16-year old brother.

and why the urban sound FX at the start/end of tracks?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 4:15 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

and why the urban sound FX at the start/end of tracks?

Easy: to embed the score into the New York in which Spider-Man goes through his adventures.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   cirithungol   (Member)

The music suits the movie very well, in that it is dumb, poorly written trash made for 12 year olds.

I have high hopes for Interstellar, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The music suits the movie very well, in that it is dumb, poorly written trash made for 12 year olds.

That's the most constructive criticism you could come up with?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   cirithungol   (Member)

The music suits the movie very well, in that it is dumb, poorly written trash made for 12 year olds.

That's the most constructive criticism you could come up with?


Terrible theme that makes me cringe whenever it surfaces.
Those voices lol
Faux-dubstep... the horror :'(
Sound effects that make it sound like a dodgy bootleg ripped from a DVD
Godawful songs
Worst of all the music itself just sounds incredibly simple. I can picture Zimmer sat at his keyboards thinking "Dun dunnnnnnnn dun dunnn dunnnn.... yeah that'll do..."

Horrible, noisy garbage for the kiddies, just like the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

The music suits the movie very well, in that it is dumb, poorly written trash made for 12 year olds.

That's the most constructive criticism you could come up with?


Terrible theme that makes me cringe whenever it surfaces.
Those voices lol
Faux-dubstep... the horror :'(
Sound effects that make it sound like a dodgy bootleg ripped from a DVD
Godawful songs
Worst of all the music itself just sounds incredibly simple. I can picture Zimmer sat at his keyboards thinking "Dun dunnnnnnnn dun dunnn dunnnn.... yeah that'll do..."

Horrible, noisy garbage for the kiddies, just like the film.


I´m sure you haven´t seen it.

And if you have you must have jumped at the chance of a preview.

C´mon, nobody has to like anything. But do you actually feel better by badmouthing something?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, at least he expounded a little bit on his view...

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Ouch. So much hate. Bad vibes, man. I'm gettin outta here.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

We've only got half the story on this score so far... some sound clips and some brief video with score. A few have heard the soundtrack but that still doesn't provide real context. We'll all be able to speak from an informed position in a few weeks after the movie opens. That said, I've grown a little weary of Zimmer's approach and technique. He (and many of his collaborators) seems to think that going counter-convention is, in itself, a good idea. That works when there is a genuine, cohesive concept to build on. Something that is inspired and has an artistic justification. The last time he accomplished this was INCEPTION. Using "Je ne regrette rien" as a basis for that score was quite brilliant in my opinion. A simple devise that was squeezed and elongated to great effect and which served as a sonic reference point throughout the film.

So far, his Spiderman score has no such focus or cohesion. He just seems to be going for tone and effect which, to me, equates to gimmick. He's just speaking in a literal (I'll use instruments and sound design that you guys know and understand) way to a certain generational demographic. It's becoming smoke and mirrors. I've learned to see through it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

weeks? it opens in 3 days!

and why the urban sound FX at the start/end of tracks?

Easy: to embed the score into the New York in which Spider-Man goes through his adventures.


oh, great... I thought this was a music cd.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   David-R.   (Member)

weeks? it opens in 3 days!

For some. In the US, it comes out early May.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2014 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Playing the 2-disc deluxe edition now. Good god what were they thinking? As usual some - I stress some - nice ideas, buried in a cacophony of noise and a huge orchestra thats been filtered down to sound like anl synth demo. My enthusiasm for the movie is sinking by the day. Maybe it'll work in contest but... oomph!

 
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