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 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

"Previous release on Rhino label was spectacular album, albeit several major set pieces (including main title & climactic Mount Rushmore sequence) were transferred from damaged elements..."
This new release have the same damaged elements ...


You claim Intrada is lying?


Listen to the sample...
Overture main title 0:46 / 1:13


No glitch that I can hear. Played it four times.



I can't hear it either...

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

We had to reconstruct the main title. Ultimately, we used several three-track sources for it. I kept going to Warner Bros. with the mandate, "find me another one" and we'd have more tapes pulled. They each had problems, unfortunately. Our main source became totally unusable for thirty seconds, right in the middle of the cue, but sounded better than anything else we had. Doug Schwartz did a fantastic job of making them all work for this important piece of music.

The rest of the score didn't need this kind of surgery.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2012 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)

Just for you trivia fans out there:

The title NORTH BY NORTHWEST is the turning point in Roger Thornhill's life. A life that has literally been turned upside down. Thornhill is a NY ad man and he is very arrogant and selfish as we see him lie to another cab fare trying to get a ride in busy downtown Manhatten. We hear him speak about how he needs to lose weight, even lying to himself by coming up with a self slogan 'Think Thin'.

Thornhill is forced by gunpoint and by accidental identification since he calls a Western Union boy over to his table to ask where he can wire a message, not realizing that he has made himself the target of two ruthless spies who have mistaken him as the fictional George Kaplan.

Throughout the film Thornhill dodges evil spies and police as he tries to regain his identity but finally tosses his self-centered persona aside as he realizes the woman he loved and still loves has been placed in harms way by his own hand. The place where he agrees to continue playing the fictional Kaplan and try to rescue sexy Ms. Eve Kendell from the suspicious VanDamm is on the tarmac of Northwest Airlines. The turning point and the rise (north) of a once selfish and deceitful ad-man has now decided to place himself in a dangerous position and continue to be a deceitful spy to the enemies of the United States.

Thus the true meaning of the film's title.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

So glad Intrada have placed the (to my ears) somewhat cheesy source music at the end of the CD. Those tracks always bothered me on the Rhino release - would be enjoying this terrific score and then suddenly some corny hotel lobby music would spoil it lol! Needless to say with the advent of iTunes I deleted those tracks straight away wink (though as some tracks faded into others it did result in a few abrupt cuts between tracks).

Can't wait to hear the results of the better sources used for this release! Thanks Intrada smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

So glad Intrada have placed the (to my ears) somewhat cheesy source music at the end of the CD. Those tracks always bothered me on the Rhino release - would be enjoying this terrific score and then suddenly some corny hotel lobby music would spoil it lol! Needless to say with the advent of iTunes I deleted those tracks straight away wink (though as some tracks faded into others it did result in a few abrupt cuts between tracks).


I don't know how anyone can describe the music of Cole Porter, Jimmy McHugh and Andre Previn as "cheesy." I enloy those source cues but it probably makes sense musically to place them at the end of the Herrmann tracks.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

I really don't care who composed them - I like what I like, and I've always considered them cheesy, at least in context with listening to the score CD. In the film is a different matter entirely. I'll not be ripping the source cues to iTunes once I have this CD. Sorry if that offends anyone wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

I don't know how anyone can describe the music of Cole Porter, Jimmy McHugh and Andre Previn as "cheesy." I enloy those source cues but it probably makes sense musically to place them at the end of the Herrmann tracks.

I've always wondered if Hitch had chosen It's a Most Unusual Day for its title : it's a pretty damn good idea !

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Filmmaker   (Member)

No glitch that I can hear. Played it four times.

I can hear it, but it's incredibly subtle (you'd have to have headphones to make it out) and Intrada's required editing of the track is very artfully done. It's a non-issue, truly.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I won't be bothering with this. Over the years since I was a student I already bought this score 4 times..

The suite from Herrrmann's own 1968 re-recording on "Music for the Great Hitchcock Movie Thrillers"

The 1980 Laurie Johnson re-recording on Unicorn-Kanchana

The 1995 Rhino release

and finally the Joel McNeely re-recording which is a fantastic album.

Ok its a re-recording and it will never capture the ambience of the original but it also contains every last note that Herrmann composed for this score (which I don't think is present on this album since Herrmann had to truncate some of the cues) and there's no annoying source tracks. I'm sticking with McNeely!


And I wish to reassure you, stravinsky, that I am not bothered by your not being bothered. I suppose I should have conducted a poll to see if others felt the same way. Funny thing is, I can't imagine anyone else being bothered, either.

Thanks ever so much for sharing.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I've always wondered if Hitch had chosen It's a Most Unusual Day for its title : it's a pretty damn good idea !

I'm sure he did!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

No.
Its a Most Unusual Day is the title of a song from the MGM musical a Date with Judy.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

No.
Its a Most Unusual Day is the title of a song from the MGM musical a Date with Judy.


I know that : I was just wondering if he had chosen that song because of its title wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

We had to reconstruct the main title.

Thanks for the info and perseverance!

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

how come none of the Hitchcock VistaVision films contained multi-track stereo?
seems like a natural.
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

VistaVision was mono or fake "Perspecta" stereo... The Widescreen Museum site says that Williamsburg's Story of a Patriot (interestingly enough, also scored by Herrmann) is the only VistaVision film with real six track stereo: http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingvv2.htm

The Perspecta page at Wikipedia indicates that Vertigo and To Catch a Thief were released in the Perspecta format.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Ordered! One for myself and one for some friends.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 6:29 PM   
 By:   Angelillo   (Member)

VistaVision was mono or fake "Perspecta" stereo...
The Perspecta page at Wikipedia indicates that Vertigo and To Catch a Thief were released in the Perspecta format.


That explains why those gunshots at the beginning of the restored VERTIGO (and its so-called "improved sound") sound really unnatural : they don't fit the more "global sound uniformity" of the rest of the movie.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2012 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I'll hang on to the Rhino for the notes. I do that with a lot of superior reissues.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2012 - 12:23 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Lets make it clear that Perspecta sound is NOT stereo at all. Its just mono sound that was bounced around behind the screen.

You wouldn't want to hear it in the house.

Hiths films were not stereo vecause Paramount did not do stereo sound in the fifties.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2012 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   Riddick   (Member)

Ordered this without any hesitation!

 
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