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 Posted:   Dec 25, 2013 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   amatalqa   (Member)

Finally opened my set for Christmas and WOW!!! What a mind blowing set. The first track on LW2 alone makes this a must have. I feel like a kid again, discovering Michael Kamen for the first time. Thank you La La Land Records. Superb in every way imaginable.

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2013 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Finally opened my set for Christmas and WOW!!! What a mind blowing set. The first track on LW2 alone makes this a must have. I feel like a kid again, discovering Michael Kamen for the first time. Thank you La La Land Records. Superb in every way imaginable.


Yeah, I keep going back to that cue. The set is a dream come true. I tried watching part 2 with Donner's commentary but had to turn it off - it was awful. Donner hardly says a thing and when he does it's usually just a lame joke. He barely mentions Kamen or the music - or the film for that matter.
It's as if he hasn't actually seen his own film before. Plus, the moderator is absolutely useless. And Donner's memory is completely shot. At one point when the moderator remarks how the Lethal Weapon films are essentially family films despite being rated R, Donner shuts him down by saying "I don't make R rated pictures." (And no, he's not joking) at which point the moderator is at a loss for words.

Ummm Actually, ALL of the LW films were R rated as was The Omen. Wtf? The guy can't even remember the ratings of his own films?

I swear, sometimes these Directors haven't actually seen their final cut until they're recording the commentary for it 20+ years later. And they just sit there in silence, too caught up in the film to remember to say anything about it.

Also, the retrospective documentary on the boxset was excellent except for its complete lack of attention to the music - it is never mentioned even once. A shame. Anyways, rant over. Great boxset from Lala with some of the best, most beloved action music of the 80's and 90's. Kamen's music lives on!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2013 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   amatalqa   (Member)

Actually Donner, one of my favorite directors, does mention Michael Kamen in his commentary to LW1. I haven't listened to the commentary to LW2, but don't be so harsh to judge the man by his commentary track. He's made some of my favorite films. He's a brilliant director and a very humble man with a great sense of humor. Take it easy on the guy.

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2013 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I'm not judging him. He actually appears to be a really cool guy in interviews and you're right, he does mention the music in the part 1 commentary. Was just venting about bad commentaries in general. He's one of my favorite directors too. Superman is untouchable.

 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2013 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Don't Turn/Cute Shorts & Hospital/Babies

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2013 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

Speaking of the first track from LW2, can anybody else hear ghostly voices around the 1'30 mark, when things simmer down for a bit?
Are they studio or monitor noise?
Just curious.

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2013 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Hmm.. Nope. I haven't heard it yet and I've been playing it non-stop.
Maybe your speakers are haunted!

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2013 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Hmm.. Nope. I haven't heard it yet and I've been playing it non-stop.
Maybe your speakers are haunted!


I haven't heard it either, but since this also occurs in a cue from LW1, I think due to Clapton, it wouldn't surprise me.

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2013 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Damn you, Clapton!

 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2013 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Grozebear   (Member)

Speaking of the first track from LW2, can anybody else hear ghostly voices around the 1'30 mark, when things simmer down for a bit?
Are they studio or monitor noise?
Just curious.


Yep, I've heard it - definitely sounds like some chatting going on in the background. Can't tell if it's studio chatter or dialog from the flick. Regardless, it's brief and doesn't take away from my enjoyment (or appreciation) of the set.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 27, 2013 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Jim Bailey   (Member)

No I haven't heard it either. Must be way too subtle to notice.

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2013 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   JasonComerford   (Member)

It's true... this set is really an embarrassment of riches. So much great stuff to enjoy at long last, particularly all that terrific action material from LW2. Such a treat to have that berserker opening cue!

There's a lot of thematic repetition across the eight discs, as to be expected, but the music itself never becomes repetitive. There's so much inventiveness in the instrumentation, and so much joyous energy to the music, that there's always something to sustain your interest.

The more I learn about composition, the more I feel like Michael Kamen never fully got the credit he deserved in his lifetime. Once upon a time, I gave his score to THE WINTER GUEST a pretty lukewarm review in FSM, and that's a review I regret even more with every passing year.

Here's a challenge to the board members -- put together a one-disc mix of the highlights of the eight discs, one that touches on as many themes and memorable moments as possible. Aaaaaand go!

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2013 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

ONE disc?

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2013 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

80 min?

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2013 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I had already been working on a compilation disc with highlights from the LW series and am happy to share it here. I wound up including a number of the "album versions", often because they were great suites of short cues from the films and were also sometimes unique to the original albums. I knew that when listening to main discs for each film it would film versions, so I wanted this highlights collection to honor what Kamen had fashioned for the original albums. Here is my sequence, total time about 72 minutes:

1.LETHAL WEAPON 2: Cheer Down (performed by George Harrison)
2.LETHAL WEAPON 3: It's Probably Me (performed by Sting with Eric Clapton)
3.LETHAL WEAPON: Meet Martin Riggs (album track)
4.LETHAL WEAPON 4: Freeway Chase
5.LETHAL WEAPON: Roger (album track)
6.LETHAL WEAPON 4: Chinatown Chase (film version)
7.LETHAL WEAPON 3: Darryl Dies (album track)
8.LETHAL WEAPON 2: Leo (album track)
9.LETHAL WEAPON 3: Armour Piercing Bullets (album track)
10.LETHAL WEAPON 2: Riggs and Roger (album track)
11.LETHAL WEAPON 4: Hong with Money/Money Montage
12.LETHAL WEAPON: We’re Leaving
13.LETHAL WEAPON 3: Roger's Boat (album track)
14.LETHAL WEAPON 4: Cell Phone
15.LETHAL WEAPON: Mr. Joshua (album track)
16.LETHAL WEAPON 2: The Shipyard (album track)

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

good idea, Jason!

and I wouldnt mind a "Bonus" second disc on that compilation too smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2013 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   JohnF   (Member)

One disc no way. Gotta have Armour Car Chase, Lornas First Fight and Stilt House Fight on any comp.

 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2014 - 3:11 AM   
 By:   Nyborg   (Member)

on to LW 3, i really like how spacious most of the album is, almost easy going compared to the first two, even the sinister elements have a smoothness to them.
I'm a long way from being able to assemble a 1-disc presentation from the whole lot, but the tracks I'm sure of so far -
Amanda
Nightclub
Chase the Red BMW
Stilt House Falls
Jack Kills Billy
Lorna's First Fight

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2014 - 9:04 PM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Jeff Bond "is getting too old for this shit.", what does this mean? Too old for liner notes, this film music or something else?

The collaboration between Sanborn, Clapton and Kamen bring something unusually special to this film music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2014 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Jeff Bond "is getting too old for this shit.", what does this mean? Too old for liner notes, this film music or something else?

It's a reference to Danny Glover's oft-quoted line in these movies: "I'm getting too old for this shit."

And Jeff Bond usually augments his bio blurb with something specific from the movie he's writing about.

 
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