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Oct 24, 2018 - 8:24 AM
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Jim Phelps
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I enjoyed the film well enough, and iirc I rated it a 7/10 on the movie thread. I liked the character in the comics, so it was great to see him with alongside The Avengers once again.
However, there was such an *absurd* amount of hype about how "great" Black Panther was and how "important" a film it was. Even "The Most Trusted Name in News", CNN, had op eds and reviews that bent over backwards praising it. It's like they were praising it to project hostility at something else completely unrelated to the film. 
Black Panther was a solid entry in the MCU. Great costumes, some seriously gorgeous women, interesting score, and eye-popping cinematography. The lead was a bit wooden for my taste, though I've seen him do better in other roles, and the villain was the weakest link as far as the performances go.
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Neither. It’s just an “ok” movie.
This. I didn't find it difficult to follow and I thought the world-building of Wakanda was perhaps the best of any Marvel film (far superior to Asgard in the Thor films IMO). But it was far from a masterpiece, even though it had some interesting and compelling elements.
For me the best Marvel films are clearly both Guardians of the Galaxy films, Thor: Ragnarok (which was tonally influenced by them I'm sure), and Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which couldn't be more different from those three. I also really enjoy both Ant-Man films and think they're generally quite underrated. Avengers: Infinity War impressed me mightily by NOT being the overstuffed trainwreck I expected it to be (which the previous Avengers movie and Captain America: Civil War hinted strongly at). But I don't consider it quite as perfect as my top 4, even though it undeniably had emotional power if you've been following all these movies up until now.
I'd probably rank Black Panther around the level of the original Captain America: its great strengths are brought down somewhat significantly by other weaker elements. And I too thought the media fawned over it too much.
I thought DC's Wonder Woman was noticeably superior to Black Panther, until the dumb DC boss battle at the end of course.
Yavar
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With up to 9 nominees it just might make it.
The last thing the "academy" wants is another b.s. "Oscar's So White' controversy!
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I dislike it when they chicken out of using the costumes and cowls etc., that are in the comics. If they dispense with them I feel they lose what makes them fun on the page in the first place. Part of all this is how they make these heroes look good and credible with the costume intact. So I really enjoyed the film, but needed more action with the character looking like the guy I saw back in the day when I read Marvel and DC (mainly up to the seventies).
Not even looked at Ragnarok. It's bad enough they daren't leave the helm on Thor much less cut his hair!
But I do agree about Wonder Woman. I came out of that feeling like I'd seen the best superhero film ever so far. The tone was so right. Not too dark, but not too comical. The ending was dull, they all seem to finish this way, but you can't have everything even with these budgets.
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I don't think it was embarrassing, except in that it was very unoriginal, kind of a patchwork of four or five movies into an okay BP story.
I thought second-tier efforts like Dr. Strange, Ant-man, and Homecoming were all better films (though the last featured some very wearing adolescent squeaking from the Spidey one).
I still don't remember anything about the score; seen the movie twice. What I've heard outside the movie...I'm just not feeling (or remembering it). It sounds good.
But hey, to me BP as a character was always better as part of a superhero group whether Avengers, Defenders, or even Marvel Two-in-One.
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