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 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Romancing The Stone was on TV tonight. And apart from the background noise being dialled WWWAAAYYY up loud, the Silvestri electronic score was really jarring. I understand it was the "sound of the time". But watching it now the soundtrack is pretty...ordinary (IMHO)

The I started to think what this movie would look (sound) like if it had a score based on today's sound. A Zimmer 2013 score. A James Newton Howard score. A John Powell score. Would it change the movie? Make it better? Worse?

I think I'd love to see an 80's movie re-scored with the current "sound"

What do you think? Would people be interested to see an older movie re-scored?

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Hmmm, I'd love to see GOLDFINGER with all the "boring talky bits" removed, CGI enhanced action sequences inserted and a Hans Zimmer score to make the film more contemporary.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I'm just kidding of course, but it's only a matter of time before some bright spark gets the idea of re-editing, CGI-ing and re-scoring old movies to make them — ahem — "better" to today's young audience.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

I'm just kidding of course, but it's only a matter of time before some bright spark gets the idea of re-editing, CGI-ing and re-scoring old movies to make them — ahem — "better" to today's young audience.

Hello Stephen.

To me, it wasn't about re-editing etc. It was more about how a classic older movie would work with a more...contemporary?...sound. Would it improve the experience? Or would it destroy the "classiness" of it.

I'm listening to this 80's score to Romancing the Stone and can appreciate it for what it was at the time. The movie still holds up reasonably well. I was just wondering if the, I don't know....tone of the movie would change a lot with a more modern score?

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

I'm just kidding of course, but it's only a matter of time before some bright spark gets the idea of re-editing, CGI-ing and re-scoring old movies to make them — ahem — "better" to today's young audience.

Well, George Lucas already did that to Star Wars... Spielberg to ET... With less than satisfactory results... other films have been revised by their directors several years after their releases (Alien, Star Trek, Blade Runer). I'm generally against this kind of changes, except some minor corrections done by the directors (repairing the hole in the finale of Aliens, reducing mate lines, removing visible wires, reediting the movie as originally intended by the director - again Aliens and Blade Runner). I'd love to see, however some rejected/modified scores reedited into their films (Alien, Troy, King Kong 2005, the original edit of Wolfen)

Now it seems the trend is unnecerally converting to 3d movies that weren't originally designed to be viewd in the format- Jurassic Park, I Robot,...

Back to the topic, I don't think modern scores would be adequate to older movies, it would be jarring as the movie would remain with its' older special effects, editing, etc.

There are some scores I dislike that I'd have preferred if they had been discarted and replaced at the time the movies were produced (For Your Eyes Only, Ladyhawke and, Romancing The Stone), but that is just a "what if" thinking.

One thing I'd like however was if they could re-score some movies rerecording their own scores in the case of some older scores that do not sound very good due to problems related to their age/recording. A modern recording of Star Wars or Jaws done by Williams, or a newer recording of Psycho or Vertigo...

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

Double post...

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

... Sorry... Triple post...

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   Mathew   (Member)

LADYHAWKE comes to mind. I think it's a solid 80s fantasy flick. But the score really bugs me. In fact, I tried to isolate just the dialogue in order to temp the movie with Poledouris' Flesh and Blood. Unfortunately I was not successful.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

LADYHAWKE comes to mind. I think it's a solid 80s fantasy flick. But the score really bugs me. In fact, I tried to isolate just the dialogue in order to temp the movie with Poledouris' Flesh and Blood. Unfortunately I was not successful.

You know, they were considering a really good composer for that film: Gerard Schurmann

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Robert Folk re-scoring the new STAR TREK movies in *this* mode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SqI_9h0u9c

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Matt B   (Member)

LADYHAWKE comes to mind. I think it's a solid 80s fantasy flick. But the score really bugs me. In fact, I tried to isolate just the dialogue in order to temp the movie with Poledouris' Flesh and Blood. Unfortunately I was not successful.

This is the first film that sprang into my head as well. Score in the film is okay, and the love theme is nice, but it's just so dated... especially now. I would have loved a Jerry Goldsmith score for LADYHAWKE.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Matt B   (Member)

Random, but I'd also love to hear an orchestral version of Mark Knopfler's score to THE PRINCESS BRIDE. His music was fine, but it's fundamentally orchestral music being played on synthesizers, and it just diminishes the greatness of the film IMHO. I think it would be something quite special to rerecord everything with a full orchestra...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Random, but I'd also love to hear an orchestral version of Mark Knopfler's score to THE PRINCESS BRIDE. His music was fine, but it's fundamentally orchestral music being played on synthesizers, and it just diminishes the greatness of the film IMHO. I think it would be something quite special to rerecord everything with a full orchestra...

Agreed on this one!

Also... John Scott re-scoring everything ever (haha sorry, had to do it!).

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

I'd rather wish the 2000 GLADIATOR score would be replaced with QUO VADIS by Miklós Rózsa, preferably per time-travel back tom 2000. So that the whole Zimmerization of film music never took place. wink

LADYHAWKE is something most people would agree on as a film that is deeply hurt by its score and that it should be redone. Except First Breath of course - unless the Powell score could be replaced by a Harold Faltermeyer one! wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   Elmo Bernstein   (Member)

I wish Elmer Bernstein had scored Alien. Other than some interesting textures, I find Goldsmith's score very workmanlike (he hated the film, and it shows). Plus Bernstein had never done a sci-fi movie so he would have come the genre fresh.

Bernstein should also have scored either Live And Let Die, For Your Eyes Only or Never Say Never. But I guess Gold was the closest we ever got to hearing a Bernstein 007 score. I'd also have loved to have heard Henry Mancini score take a crack at a Bond film. He was the obvious choice to do one. It's odd that it never happened.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

If this thread takes off i predict nothing but heartache.

That jerry shoulda dun this score, that ennio shoulda dun that score, that williams shouldv also dun these scores, oh no, im quite happy with henrys original score, or could he have done a better score than norths - woulda shoulda coulda!

What does it matter, we got what we got. Enjoy everything for what it is.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

If this thread takes off i predict nothing but heartache.

That jerry shoulda dun this score, that ennio shoulda dun that score, that williams shouldv also dun these scores, oh no, im quite happy with henrys original score, or could he have done a better score than norths - woulda shoulda coulda!

What does it matter, we got what we got. Enjoy everything for what it is.


Sorry you feel that way.

But this is not so much about who should have done what.

It's more about how a score as produced now would change the tone of an older movie.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Nothing against Maestro Morricone, but I'd have loved to hear Poledouris' take on Red Sonja.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

The only reason old movies are not re-edited for contemporary audiences is because of rights ownership and royalties. Easier to make your own bad, noisy, CGI-ed Goldfinger. Still, there are edited-for-broadcast-TV versions for your 'enjoyment'.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Jerry Goldsmith for 'Where The Wild Thimgs Are'.

 
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