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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Homecoming: A Christmas Story/Rascals and Robbers
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2011 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

I totally agree with the above sentiments. The only one thing that I would suggest is that if a release is truly limited by contractual reasons that prohibit a repressing that this should be stated up front to prevent people who truly want such a release from missing out.

Chris

I think if quantities weren't indicated and instead people were simply told when low stock points are reached, that might be more effective for all.

I agree. In FSM's case--and I mean this respectfully--there is absolutely no purpose in stating a quantity. As Lukas just stated, they print more when necessary; if it's a good seller and they need to keep their lights on, then they print more--and rightfully so. I say stop playing with these dumb numbers and concentrate your efforts on the music and packaging only.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2011 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)


I'm looking forward to Goldsmith's The Homecoming. A personal favorite of mine from my favorite period in his career. 1962-1980.

It's nice to have it finally released in FSM style. Wonderful cover art, and I'm sure the sound will be first rate.

It cost $24.30 (including shipping) for 20 minutes of music, but it's well worth it to me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2011 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   orion_mk3   (Member)

I'm looking forward to Horner's Rascals and Robbers. I'm sure it will become a personal favorite of mine since it's from my favorite period in his career, 1980-1995.

It's nice to have it finally released in FSM style. Wonderful cover art, and I'm sure the sound will be first rate.

It cost $24.30 (including shipping) for 34 minutes of music, but it's well worth it to me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2011 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

I'll be honest... I hate the Goldsmith score, going only by the samples. I had heard his score for The Traveling Executioner previously, which I also loathed. Most Americana/western-flavored film music is just grating to my ears.

The James Horner score is what piqued my interest in this release in the first place, and it doesn't sound bad at all... it's actually quite great! A whole mix of flavors, and I'm sure I was hearing hints of Krull as well. Love that end title theme...

I wish I could pick up this CD right now, but since my income is rather limited this month, I'll have to put it off for a bit.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2011 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

I've just received this and am now giving it a spin. It's a very fluid, open sound Lukas and the gang has achieved here. Homecoming nearly sounds brand new in its recording. Amazing. Can't wait to hear what Horner brings to the disc.

I'm excited to finally add this long ago effort (on both composers' part) to my CD collection. Lukas--homerun.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2011 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I'll be honest... I hate the Goldsmith score, going only by the samples. I had heard his score for The Traveling Executioner previously, which I also loathed. Most Americana/western-flavored film music is just grating to my ears.

The James Horner score is what piqued my interest in this release in the first place, and it doesn't sound bad at all... it's actually quite great! A whole mix of flavors, and I'm sure I was hearing hints of Krull as well. Love that end title theme...

I wish I could pick up this CD right now, but since my income is rather limited this month, I'll have to put it off for a bit.





Hate is a bit extreme, don't you think? I think the Goldsmith is a lovely work in his glorious Americana vein. I throughly enjoyed and liked the Horner score.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2011 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I'll be honest... I hate the Goldsmith score, going only by the samples. I had heard his score for The Traveling Executioner previously, which I also loathed. Most Americana/western-flavored film music is just grating to my ears.

The James Horner score is what piqued my interest in this release in the first place, and it doesn't sound bad at all... it's actually quite great! A whole mix of flavors, and I'm sure I was hearing hints of Krull as well. Love that end title theme...


So Goldsmith Americana = Bad, and Horner Americana = Good.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2011 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

Hate is a bit extreme, don't you think? I think the Goldsmith is a lovely work in his glorious Americana vein. I throughly enjoyed and liked the Horner score.

You're right-- "hate" isn't the best choice of words. Perhaps "let down" or "disappointed" would be more suitable... just my opinion, anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2011 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

Just listened to the CD (which arrived in the mail yesterday). Very enjoyable presentation. Really enjoyed the Horner music, which I've been curious about ever since hearing Don Ray talk about the score in one of his 1987 UCLA Extension classes. "The Homecoming" was a slam dunk as I've always loved Goldsmith's score for this film.

The only thing I would have liked to have seen included with the notes was the musicians roster, especially the brass players' names on "Rascals and Robbers," but realize this info can't always be found.

Anyway, thanks for this terrific CD, Lukas!

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2011 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)



So Goldsmith Americana = Bad, and Horner Americana = Good.


In this case I tend to agree with that statement, although a decade in between titles also factors in. Still, the Horner is worth it and good move from FSM to pair it with Homecoming to please everyone.

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2011 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

Just finished listening to both scores. The Goldsmith is very heartfelt, gentle and down home Americana. The Horner is light and adventurous. I don't hear that much Americana in Horner's offering, but it is a delightful work that reminds me quite a bit of his soon to follow Something Wicked This Way Comes with lots of ST II touches.

Both are very different scores to very different types of films and offer nice contrasts to each other. Of special interest in the Homecoming, there are several passages where you can hear the seeds of his "Walton's Theme" which doesn't show up fully developed until the series.

Very nice release indeed, especially with 2 scores filling out the running time, something that a money pinched person can truly appreciate!

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2011 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I also received my CD yesterday - what a wonderful listen.

Lukas hit a "home run" on this one, for sure! I just can't believe that THE HOMECOMING can sound this good for a 40 year old score - I sure would like to hear from Lukas more about the mastering process he used to bring the sonics up to this level.

Great - two thumbs up! Thanks, Lukas and another special thanks to CBS for giving their approval for this release...:-)

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2011 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

Just finished listening to both scores. The Goldsmith is very heartfelt, gentle and down home Americana. The Horner is light and adventurous. I don't hear that much Americana in Horner's offering, but it is a delightful work that reminds me quite a bit of his soon to follow Something Wicked This Way Comes with lots of ST II touches.

Both are very different scores to very different types of films and offer nice contrasts to each other. Of special interest in the Homecoming, there are several passages where you can hear the seeds of his "Walton's Theme" that doesn't show up fully developed until the series.

Very nice release indeed, especially with 2 scores filling out the running time, something that a money pinched person can truly appreciate!


Well said, Mark. I think Horner may have been channeling a bit of Americana in his Rascals & Robbers, but you're right--very little floats to the surface. In fact, the score becomes so playful at times that it's an interesting contrast on disc to to Goldsmith offering. Jerry spends his half creating a warm, wintered bliss set against an American family; that's much different than Horner, who doesn't subdue his composition as much compared to Homecoming. Overall, a fantastic release and, in my opinion, a fair grouping of what call only be termed as two film score titans. I'm glad FSM has saved these from their darkened fates.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2011 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

It says in the liner notes for THE HOMECOMING that the masters for THE WALTONS music are no longer available - makes me want to pick up season one of the series to get the rest of the music that Goldsmith composed - would go well with my HOMECOMING DVD and now the CD.

Anybody else have the season one DVD set?...:-)

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2011 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I'll be honest... I hate the Goldsmith score, going only by the samples. I had heard his score for The Traveling Executioner previously, which I also loathed. Most Americana/western-flavored film music is just grating to my ears.

Get off this messageboard. Now!

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2011 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

I'll be honest... I hate the Goldsmith score, going only by the samples. I had heard his score for The Traveling Executioner previously, which I also loathed. Most Americana/western-flavored film music is just grating to my ears.

Get off this messageboard. Now!


Hey, if I do that, I'm only letting the bullies win. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2011 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)


Get off this messageboard. Now!


Hey, if I do that, I'm only letting the cult win. wink


Fixed. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2011 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I've just finished my first play through of this CD.
I'd never heard the Goldsmith score before and upon first play, it's a familiar-sounding early 70's style score that Goldsmith was churning out quite frequently back then.
Numerous other works by him in a similar style are easily recalled. Certainly BALLAD OF CABLE HOGUE came to mind, plus things like BABE and A GIRL NAMED SOONER.
I didn't find it Christmassy at all, certainly not in the conventional manner. Just more homespun and low-key. I don't think it will ever make my December play list.
I am looking forward to getting to know it better with repeated listenings.
The Horner score was far more accessible to me.
I already had about 10-15 minutes of it on an old tape and this one just bristles with fun and adventure. It's light and airy and brings with it fond memories of Horner arriving onto the scene with his zesty new sound and bravura. The ST II and SWTWC swipes are obvious, but fun. It's another score where he's also channeling his professed love for Williams' MISSOURI BREAKS (see also 48 HRS). Just listen to the latter cave cues with the bass harmonica in this one to hear that.
I haven't sat back and digested the booklet yet. I'm gonna save that for another time.
This is a great release which is balanced quite nice, from Goldsmith's somewhat gloomy and low-key effort, to Horner's light and sprightly bouncing score.
Bring on WEASEL CREEK! wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2011 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

The only thing I would have liked to have seen included with the notes was the musicians roster, especially the brass players' names on "Rascals and Robbers," but realize this info can't always be found.

We had the info, but don't usually include it in the booklet. It will eventually be posted here:

http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/467/Homecoming--A-Christmas-Story-Rascals-and-Robbers-The/

as is being done for all FSM CDs.

But to answer your question, the brass players we Malcom McNab and Judd Miller on trumpet and Vince De Rosa and Gale Robinson on French horn.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2011 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

I've been waiting for THE HOMECOMING for years. The Horner score is just the icing on the cake. Just placed my order this morning. Now bring on THE RED PONY.

 
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