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 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

never said it's not worth a rebuy

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

Now, after this fine release, I only whish the same treatment for McCarthy`s ENCOUNTER AT FARPOINT (wich needs a restauration badly)!

Any chance for this one?

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

From a thread I started here: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=1&threadID=92692&archive=0

"GNP Crescendo Records is proud to announce another volume in its continuing series of expanded Star Trek releases."

I'd expect Farpoint at the very least and probably redone versions of the DS9 and Voyager pilots as well...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

I'd rather not see expanded solo episode releases. Best of Both Worlds was the exception since it is by far the most popular TNG episode and works well as a full feature film.

Instead, I'd rather LA LA focus on more Volumes of episode music from TNG. And of course DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, etc.

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Wouldn’t mind hearing a new Farpoint. It has some cool stuff in it. And it’s before the TNG music got Bermaned.

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Six Demon Bag   (Member)

i too would be interested in an expanded ENCOUNTER AT FARPOINT and ALL GOOD THINGS (that tease we got on Lalaland's release was too small)

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

i too would be interested in an expanded ENCOUNTER AT FARPOINT and ALL GOOD THINGS (that tease we got on Lalaland's release was too small)

I'm sure they did what they could...

...but yes, I would buy an expanded "All Good Things" in a heartbeat.

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2013 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

never said it's not worth a rebuy


It's still not just a re-issue either.

Yes the FSM Ron Jones set had some new tracks but not ALL of them. As Lukas K. stated before, GNP wouldn't let them have the REST of the score for Best Of Both Worlds when they did the Ron Jones set.

This set is the score 100% complete, NOTHING missing, and even a couple of cues never heard before. Even as Ford said it even fixed the remastering issue with "Captain Borg".

BTW I too wouldn't mind a complete release for "Encounter At Farpoint".

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I would also be interested in an expanded “Encounter at Farpoint” and a full album for “All Good Things.”

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

The new remastering for Best of Both Worlds is really outstanding. I think Farpoint could be a gem in that Sound! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Six Demon Bag   (Member)

speaking of BOBW, i watched the standalone Blu release yesterday and i love the editing they did with it. for so many years, i've grown accustomed to the Cut to Black after "Fire!" I have to admit, it threw me for a loop.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

How did they edit is?

The old version cut of Jones' fantastic cliffhanger cue, so I always found it disappointing.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Six Demon Bag   (Member)

How did they edit is?

The old version cut of Jones' fantastic cliffhanger cue, so I always found it disappointing.



It goes from "fire!" To a shot of the Enterprise firing.

The cliffhanger cue over "to be continued" is gone

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

The editing was okay but at the same time still not thrilled about it. They cut the first 30 seconds or so from the actual opening of Part 2 where Geordi says, "Energy, discharge in six seconds!" and Worf saying, "Firing, sir."

I want to start getting TNG on Blu-Ray....

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 4:02 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

The editing was okay but at the same time still not thrilled about it. They cut the first 30 seconds or so from the actual opening of Part 2 where Geordi says, "Energy, discharge in six seconds!" and Worf saying, "Firing, sir."

I want to start getting TNG on Blu-Ray....


They could have included everything if they had simply included the Part 2 "last time on" and did some fancy editing to adjoin it to the climax of Part 1. It's disappointing as it is presented here, where the music edit is jarring.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 3, 2013 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   ChristianKühn   (Member)

Quick query: in track 2, at 0:22, there is a slight, but still noticeable "bump" in volume. Not a complaint (I feel necessary to point out), but is it just my ears or can somebody else hear it, too?

I like this new release a lot, but I'm holding onto my old GNP copy I bought 1997 for two reasons: 1) I'm so damn accustomed to the cues being self-contained (not joined as they are now) and 2) Ron Jones signed its cover.

Ah, the woes of being a film music fan... wink

CK

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 4, 2013 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

The original GNP Crescendo disc was a treasure. Just the fact that they were able to release such a huge swath of music - in 1991 that wasn't common! It was also one of the first batch of soundtracks that I started getting back in the 90s (on cassette!). It didn't impress me all that much at first, but it's now a favorite of mine. I like the snare drum and percussion elements...

-Rick O.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   patrick_runkle   (Member)

Was listening to this disc again today after working my way through the season three blu-ray. I'm wondering whether anyone has any idea as to why the sound on the original GNP release is not so good. And by so not so good I don't mean that it's terrible, but listening to the expanded disc, the sound is just so crisp and clear and fantastic, it makes me wonder what they did to it back in 1990 for the original disc.

"Borg Engaged" has to be one of the greatest cues written for television, and on the original disc it has relatively a lot of hiss, sounds kind of clipped, and also has less dynamic range to my ears. On the new disc, the same track has no hiss, full frequency range, and is completely dynamic such that soft is soft and loud is loud. It makes me think that the CD master was more than a generation removed from the original.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Was listening to this disc again today after working my way through the season three blu-ray. I'm wondering whether anyone has any idea as to why the sound on the original GNP release is not so good. And by so not so good I don't mean that it's terrible, but listening to the expanded disc, the sound is just so crisp and clear and fantastic, it makes me wonder what they did to it back in 1990 for the original disc.

"Borg Engaged" has to be one of the greatest cues written for television, and on the original disc it has relatively a lot of hiss, sounds kind of clipped, and also has less dynamic range to my ears. On the new disc, the same track has no hiss, full frequency range, and is completely dynamic such that soft is soft and loud is loud. It makes me think that the CD master was more than a generation removed from the original.


I can shed a bit of light on this ...

Back in 1990 when the project was in production, the choice was made by the company to use the mixes that Ron Jones was given after the sessions on his DATS as the source of their master.

Mark Banning who was working at GNP at the time spotted the mix issue with "Borg Engaged" and strongly suggested that they go back to the multi-track masters and fix this issue and perhaps do a new album mix, however it was decided to just use the 2 Track Stereo Dat Master mixes and not spend the additional monies to remix.

It was a budget call on their part, which they had the right to do.

However I've had to listen to him bitch about that for the last 22 years and I'm glad that this issue was addressed on this release and I won't have to keep hearing about it for the next 22 years..

THANK GOD!!!!!

:-)


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

The quality on the new reissue is indeed remarkable. Great work team.

 
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