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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: A VIEW TO A KILL     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 6:23 AM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) Not to rain on Henry's parade but inspired by his recent threads on Bond films, let's talk about Sir Rog's last outing as 007. Now first off, even though I love Moore in the role, I have to accept he was far too old to play Bond by the time of this movie. He looks too old for starters and also some of the staging of the action sequences basically hardly have him there (the punch up in Sutton's mansion for example). And it is a little embarressing watching him in love scenes with Tanya Roberts. But that said I don't think the film is too bad at all. It has some cracking action sequences (love the fire-truck scene in SF and the stuff on the Golden Gate at the climax), a good old fashioned baddie plot, a superb villain (Zorin is probably my favourite baddie after Scarramanga) and, hell, I even like John Barry's score. Yes, it has a few really dreadful moments (the imitation Beach Boys at the start is pretty wince-inducing nowadays although ai have to say I saw the film several times at the cinema and every audience broke up with laughter) and Tanya Roberts is a terrible actress even by Bond-girl standards. But it's a fun romp and certainly much better than Octopussy.    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 6:44 AM     By:   Membership Expired   (Member) Moore looks far too old for the role in this one. Almost mummified in some scenes. Roberts is rather dreadful. Walken is very underused. The plot isnt very interesting, and it's rather convoluted. Not a very engaging story. While the stunts are all rather good, you can see the stunt doubles more then usual It has a scene where microchips are explained and everyone in is is 60 years plus. I think Moore is the youngest one there. The franchise really shows its age here. Visually rather flat. The locations arent very interesting or exotic (Paris, San Fransisco...ooohhh) Just a very dull film. Not as bad as Live And Let Die or Die Another Day (both films that rubbed me the wrong way), but just not very interesting.    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 7:43 AM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) Again, different film - different viewers - different opinions. I'm not that taken with this one but recognise it has a lot of good things going for it. I particularly like Christopher Walken ... certainly one of most evil baddies in the series ... and I enjoy the locations. The plot is interesting and the action scenes (somewhat doubled!) are good fun, in particular the Golden Gate finale was exceedingly well filmed for the large cinema screen (less so on TV). But Roger Moore was too old to carry the suspension of disbelief mantle (my wife and I are convinced he had a stroke either before or during filming which affected his facial muscles) and the inclusion of Grace Jones was a bad mistake. I accept the role required a very dramatic and physical actress but I so wish they had chosen someone else. The pre-credit and Fiona Fullerton bathtub scenes are too silly and, as mentioned elsewhere, the end scene in the shower makes me cringe ... it's a shame they couldn't have ended it as with Quantum of Solace ... a polite goodbye. It's probably my least favourite John Barry JB007 score not helped by using a Boy Band (notwithstanding their pleasure to be involved and John/Roger (?) Taylor's love of Barry's music) for the title song, though the action and love themes are excellent. I know that others on the forum (one in particular) criticises director John Glen but given I rate his other four JB007 films as my Nos. 3-6 favourites (from all 23 - 25 films) I can't agree. Maybe he is not as technically proficient as others but he made 4 excellent films and even this one is pretty good if somewhat less enjoyable than the other four. Mitch    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 7:54 AM     By:   juhana   (Member) What bothers me the most about this movie (aside from RM's age) is that first half of the film has almost nothing to do with the second. When you get down to it, all Bond really finds out during his stay in Zorin's stables is that Zorin cheats in horse races (he also meets Stacey for the first time, but that's only like some 5% of the screentime spent there). This plot point is then completely set aside during the second half, meaning that the movie basically seems to start all over again. Thanks for wasting my time. Still, it's overall pretty decent, mostly because the great villains manage to elevate it's quality.    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 9:09 AM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) What bothers me the most about this movie (aside from RM's age) is that first half of the film has almost nothing to do with the second. ... That's because the film is a remake of Goldfinger: recall that JB/the audience know nothing about the plot until JB is taken to the USA. But away from the direct analogy with that iconic film, many of the stories are so slanted ... in Casino Royale, for example, we have two separate films tagged together. The microchip MacGuffin is introduced in the pre-credit sequence, forms part of Bond's investigation of the horse race scam and the actual plot is spelt out shortly after the half-way mark ... in many ways this film's story arc is more coherent than many of the others'. Mitch    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 1:25 PM     By:   Richard-W   (Member) A VIEW TO A KILL keeps spinning the wheels like an involuntary motion disease. Anyone can see a rot has set in. Oddly, it's probably John Glen's best-directed film from a technical point of view, but it's empty, tired and obvious. I like "Bond Meets Tracy" and "Wine With Tracy." Two love themes by John Barry, short but eloquent, that supply a subtext the film itself doesn't have.    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 4:15 PM     By:   Tall Guy   (Member) ... and, hell, I even like John Barry's score. Steady, tiger! You'll undermine your hard-won reputation.    Posted:   Mar 29, 2015 - 4:59 PM     By:   nuts_score   (Member) I ironically enjoy this Bond film and genuinely like Christopher Walken and Grace Jones in it. I also enjoy the score and the title song but when I read some of the characteristic defenses of this middling movie I am reminded why I feel so alienated on this message board.    Posted:   Mar 30, 2015 - 12:21 PM     By:   johnjohnson   (Member) "In the world of high adventure, the highest number is still 007."    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 5:45 AM     By:   Tall Guy   (Member) "In the world of high adventure, the highest number is still 007." After all this time, it STILL annoys me that he sings "Pheonix" instead of "Phoenix". Good points - Chris Walken, the mine climax, the horse race/chase, May Day's illogical but oddly touching sacrifice Bad points - RM being 20 years too old and as a result the stunts (and the bonking of everything in sight) being risibly unconvincing, the keystone cops elements of the fire truck episode, Tanya Roberts, the Achille Aubergine character (a knock off Hercule Poirot), the double-taking pigeon. Yes, I know the last one was in a different film, but I was still suffering from it in 1985.    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 6:56 AM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) Yes, I know the last one was in a different film, but I was still suffering from it in 1985. I have it in good authority that, in Spedtre, the baddie no longer has a white cat but instead a genetically modified pigeon.    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 9:41 AM     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member) We havent had any messages and we definitely did not eat this deliciously plump-breasted pigeon.    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 9:41 AM     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member) twice.    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 9:46 AM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) We havent had any messages and we definitely did not eat this deliciously plump-breasted pigeon. Speckled Jim Bond!!!    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 4:31 PM     By:   Joe E.   (Member) Though it's been a long time since I considered myself even a casual Bond fan, I have a nostalgic fondness for this movie. It's the second 007 movie I ever saw in a theater (out of just seven total, including the first in the Craig reboot series), and like most or all the Bond movies it's very much of its time; it takes me right back to 1985. Perhaps strangely, even when I first saw it as a teenager, Moore's age didn't bother me; I think the only thing about the movie that really did bother me was Tanya Roberts. I remember playing the video for the Duran Duran title song a lot on the video jukebox at the bowling alley at the base I grew up on. This movie's soundtrack album was also the only one for an individual Bond movie I ever got (I also have an old compilation of just the title songs plus the Bond theme). And this movie is the first one that played at the Hahn Cinema 50 after it got Dolby Stereo installed. I haven't seen it often or recently, which might help me keep my fondness for it, but I think I'll see it again eventually.    Posted:   Mar 31, 2015 - 4:32 PM     By:   Joe E.   (Member) (DP)    Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 6:26 AM     By:   Ado   (Member) I really liked the Duran Duran song. I thought it was very good. I am probably in the minority, but I think most Bond movie songs are not very good.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 8:36 AM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) The second-worst 007 movie ever made...just terrible.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 11:30 AM     By:   scrapsly   (Member) I must be much more shallow than most of you when it comes to being a movie critic. I don't put much thought into it. A move is ENTERTAINMENT to me. If it claims 2 be factual I will put it under the microscope of scrutiny, but if not I take it 4 what it is.....ENTERTAINMENT. I grew up with the Roger Moore era and it was the second one I saw in theaters. Yes Moore was too old, Tanya Roberts wasn't the best Bond girl (I like her alright in her role) and Grace Jones is well...Grace Jones (I am here to let you take care of me...personally) but the movie is entertaining. It works. I love Moore in Octopussy (my favorite Moore Bond film) & Kristina Wayborn is my favorite Bond girl. One of the first women I can remember as a youngster being enamered of. Still today she was good in her role and damn she looked smokin hot in the film. "Does Kamal have a propasition 4 me.....OR DO YOU" Moore is still the best Bond at doing one liners. Barry's score is fantastic. I am glad we have "A View To A Kill" as is.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2015 - 12:50 PM     By:   Jeyl   (Member) *Zorin shoots the miners with glee* This isn't fun... not fun at all. I hate this movie.     Non-Film Score Discussion: A VIEW TO A KILL    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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