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 Posted:   Mar 16, 2017 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Listening now...it certainly is dreamy. Ranges from hyperactive to hazy and somnambulistic. I like it, definitely in the mode of his Tempest music.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Listening now...it certainly is dreamy. Ranges from hyperactive to hazy and somnambulistic. I like it, definitely in the mode of his Tempest music.

Just saw the tracklist and noticed that some of the pieces are missing from the album.

I wonder why he didn't release the whole score? I mean since he's doing it through his own label it should be easier, right?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Indeed. Even as a devout defender of everything that is NOT complete, I think 22-23 minutes seems a little on the short side for the whole CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

It's true there seemed to be more music in the film/stage play.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2017 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Anybody know where it was recorded?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

Anybody know where it was recorded?

I think it was mostly recorded (some parts were recorded at his apartment) at Manhattan Center Studio.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

So, he come back from retirement? Nice!

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

Pretty disappointing. $15 for a measly 20-minutes of fluff; certainly not top-shelf Goldenthal--not even second or third-shelf, really. A shame.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Pretty disappointing. $15 for a measly 20-minutes of fluff; certainly not top-shelf Goldenthal--not even second or third-shelf, really. A shame.

That's a rather harsh description of the music, I think. This seems to be perfectly in line with his previous theatre and Taymour works. But I agree that the running time is a bit too short. If there was more music in the show, I see no reason why he couldn't have stretched this to a 30-40 minute presentation, at least.

OR....he could have combined it with something previously unreleased with a similar ensemble.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



That's a rather harsh description of the music, I think. This seems to be perfectly in line with his previous theatre and Taymour works. But I agree that the running time is a bit too short. If there was more music in the show, I see no reason why he couldn't have stretched this to a 30-40 minute presentation, at least.

OR....he could have combined it with something previously unreleased with a similar ensemble.


Yeah well, Goldenthal seems to like short CDs, unfortunetly. The symphony is like 25 minutes according to iTunes (I don't own it), and the Othello Symphony is 35 minutes. Those two would have been perfect disc companions, but nope.
The chamber music disc as well is under 40 minutes.

(Is that all of the Zarathusra releases?)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Myself, I'm over CDs. A piece is an album is an entity. I honestly don't care if something is 23 minutes or 79. I listened to this album on Apple Music and I found it lovely. My only beef is that when I saw the film in the theater there seemed to be more music...especially the creepy children. Where's that stuff?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2017 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

So, he come back from retirement? Nice!

Retired? I seem to go over this in a bunch of Goldenthal threads but he seems really active to me. In the last couple years he did theater scores (MSND and Grounded starring Anne Hathaway in NYC), and it's been announced that Taymor is doing a new M.Butterfly on Broadway...

on the concert work front he did the Symphony (2014), a String Quartet, then his Lyric Suite (2015), six weeks ago he premiered a piece with Howard Hanson's old band in Rochester "Waltz & Agitato," and it says that the Chamber Orch. of Philadelphia is premiering his Trumpet Concerto in October.

Plus the albums: Othello Symphony, Symphony in G# Minor, the chamber music, the Jabberwocky...

And at these film music festivals he seems to be reworking all his film scores into concert versions.

Just because he isn't doing crap action movies doesn't mean he's dead. He seems to be more active than ever before.

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Except that majority of his most recent works seems to be based on his earlier stuff... and his concert suites are just collection of a few selected cues... hardly proper concert suites like some composers do and actually stick their material together into one compact piece.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Except that majority of his most recent works seems to be based on his earlier stuff... and his concert suites are just collection of a few selected cues... hardly proper concert suites like some composers do and actually stick their material together into one compact piece.

I disagree. His "Grand Gothic Suite" brought down the house at Krakow. I also heard his "Titus Symphonic Passages - I" at Krakow and it had been recomposed and synthesized into a proper piece.

It's just that this is a film centric board. Like Jon Stewart said about his career, "just because you don't see me on tv every night doesn't mean I died." With the current level of film music I think it's just as well that Goldenthal be off doing what he wants.

There are composers I love like Elfman...but i see him doing things like 50 Shades or Grey and I'm pretty sure I don't want any of my favorite composers doing things like that.

Here is a snippet of Goldenthal's Lyric Suite and it sounds new to me: https://youtu.be/Fp6O8HKFH2I

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2017 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

I love the work very much, though the length of the album is a lil' too short, IMHO. I noticed that track 'Flower Charm' was very much inspired by his score to 'Forest'.

Anyone else heard the album yet?

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2017 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

I think of it as sort of a Trilogy of synth-y Skaespeare scores with The Tempest being the first and something in the future being the next...it's definitely cut of the same clothe.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2017 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   daretodream   (Member)

I think of it as sort of a Trilogy of synth-y Skaespeare scores with The Tempest being the first and something in the future being the next...it's definitely cut of the same clothe.

Something in the future? Is he planning on doing on another Shakespeare?

 
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