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Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8      General Discussion: VINYL HATERS UNITE: Please talk amongst yourselves    FIRST   PRIOR   6 7 8       Last Post   Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 11:43 AM     By:   Ado   (Member) Cigarettes never left either, they had quite good run for a fad - except of course they kill you.    Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 12:30 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) What drives me nuts are those labels who are jumping upon the vinyl resurgence bandwagon, but are literally just playing the 16-bit CDs through a studio-quality DAC, then using that to create the LP pressing masters. And people who know little about the technical side (or don't care) are basically being conned into buying what amounts to a CD transfer on an LP! The worst of both worlds... So other than the large artwork, you'd have a higher quality result with the actual CD itself, without the added degradations caused by the additional processes needed to prepare it for transferring onto vinyl. If high-res files or (best situation) a pure analogue process from mastertape through to master lacquer cutting are employed, then the advantages of a decent LP system can be appreciated. A sizeable proportion of modern vinyl is unfortunately a huge con. Please do your research before buying & parting with your money. Labels SHOULD be honest about exactly what you're getting pressed onto the LP! This information needs to be spread so labels don't take the easy way out, and realise people want the best audio quality too from vinyl. Make sure you ask a label first about what exactly has been pressed onto the LP, before ordering the soundtrack. These are important points that cannot be stressed enough. Good call.    Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 1:00 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Cigarettes never left either, they had quite good run for a fad - except of course they kill you. "I love the smell of vinyl in the morning".    Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 4:47 PM     By:   John-73   (Member) With the technology that's currently available to the us, for anyone to suggest that ultimate sound reproduction comes only with a massive price tag is a little silly. No one is saying vinyl can't sound good--it often does. The issue is about vinyl's fundamental technological limitations and how people often rationalize their preference to it through a profound and long-nurtured emotional bond. ETA: Just so I don't get accused of some sort of anti-vinyl bias which could call my objectivity into question, I should preface my comments with how I myself have come dangerously close to the kind of obsession that often characterizes record collectors and audiophiles. Back in 2001 I wrestled that embryonic neurosis into submission and brought home the Technics SL1200MK2 and that is as far as I will ever go again. I'm suggesting that for LP, you have to spend a fair bit to get good results, results that minimise vinyls imperfections and really bring out its strengths. You cannot do vinyl on the cheap and expect good results. The Technics SL-1200 you mention is, however, a superb deck, and one that was hardly cheap to buy when new either (by the way they're very highly sort after now - and have shot up in value! I wish I'd kept mine). When it comes to digital however, I absolutely fully agree with you. One can indeed get very respectable results from budget gear. Digital is the great leveller (and many audiophiles still can't handle that heheh!). But then you really do need a decent amplifier and speakers to get the most out of them. My pet hate is hearing people making definitive statements about the sound quality (or lack of) of certain releases, and then finding out they're listening on cheapo plastic computer speakers or crappy earbud headphones, or worse... But I'll save anyone from any further audio rants of mine now    Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 5:12 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) These are important points that cannot be stressed enough. Good call. Agreed. I love vinyl, but with digital vinyl, you are getting the drawbacks of both formats and the advantages of neither.    Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 5:24 PM     By:   zippy   (Member) Collecting Vinyl is the latest fad , like having a hipster beard . I cant understand the need for spending hard earned cash on something which sounds inferior to Cds and digital . I know some of the artwork is nice etc however it would be so much cheaper just to collect the covers ... I still recall some of the traumas i had with the original double star wars lp and the awful pops clicks i had to deal with .. A fad that sure has lasted quite some time. Vinyl never left. Thanks to the storage facilities across the country! You know, all of those Salvation Army's and Goodwill's.    Posted:   Sep 29, 2015 - 6:14 PM     By:   pp312   (Member) A fad that sure has lasted quite some time. Vinyl never left. Thanks to the storage facilities across the country! You know, all of those Salvation Army's and Goodwill's. Yes indeedy! My local Sallies has been ahead of the trend for decades, saving all those "Henry Mancini's Greatest Hits" LPs for us adults with taste and "The Wiggles Sing Christmas Hits" for the kiddies. But how did they know vinyl would come back? A message from on high?    Posted:   Sep 30, 2015 - 10:17 AM     By:   Erik Woods   (Member) I'm very happy with the vinyl I've gotten, I love the artwork, a lot of time new artwork, I love when places do signings or if I can get a star or director to sign my copy. I've framed a few and they look really nice. To each their own. Fair enough... but do you actually listen to the album? You made no mention of actually playing the disc - only how it looks. How does it sound compared to CD's? Or are you just buying the vinyl as a collectors item? -Erik-    Posted:   Sep 30, 2015 - 12:09 PM     By:   The Thing   (Member) I'm very happy with the vinyl I've gotten, I love the artwork, a lot of time new artwork, I love when places do signings or if I can get a star or director to sign my copy. I've framed a few and they look really nice. To each their own. Fair enough... but do you actually listen to the album? You made no mention of actually playing the disc - only how it looks. How does it sound compared to CD's? Or are you just buying the vinyl as a collectors item? -Erik- Lol. Seems like a variation of the "I refuse to buy digipacks" / "It's the music that counts" argument.     General Discussion: VINYL HATERS UNITE: Please talk amongst yourselves    << < 6 7 8  >   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

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