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 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

So much great music...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2016 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

So much great music...



Yes Krakatoa, Let's hope 2016 the labels will finally issue a Steiner CD or two. The labels have neglected Steiner for whatever reasons. Also at WB there is Waxman, Tiomkin, Roemheld, Deutsch etc. yet to be issued. Perhaps the labels will enlighten us!

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

As said in the previous 2015 thread, I was adjusting Steiner's old recordings of ROCKY MOUNTAIN and DALLAS, about 44 and 20 min. Can somebody (Fajola?) supply me with a track list of these long recordings to add marks, titles and time?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Let's hope 2016 the labels will finally issue a Steiner CD or two. The labels have neglected Steiner for whatever reasons. Also at WB there is Waxman, Tiomkin, Roemheld, Deutsch etc. yet to be issued.

As it is well-known that Warners had junked almost all of their pre 1954 scores and as Waxman, Deutsch and Roemheld worked there mainly during the 40s, certainly nothing by them from that decade has survived.
I suppose that even the original tracks of Tiomkin 's I CONFESS, HIS MAJESTY O'KEEFE or THE COMMAND are long gone, but something like THE SUNDOWNERS from 1960 will probably have survived (even though only in mono) and there formerly was also a Cinema bootleg LP of this score.
All the Steiner WB material is only there because the composer himself had preserved acetates of many of his scores. But if you had to rely just on WB themselves, you could probably forget about all those scores from the 30s, 40s and even early 50s anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Helen of Troy is particularly deserving of a re-recording. I'm surprised this isn't currently high on Tadlow's list, seeing as Mr. Fitzpatrick has in the past expressed high regard for the score and dissatisfaction with the re-recorded suite from Silva.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Helen of Troy is particularly deserving of a re-recording. I'm surprised this isn't currently high on Tadlow's list, seeing as Mr. Fitzpatrick has in the past expressed high regard for the score and dissatisfaction with the re-recorded suite from Silva.

Nowadays there certainly isn't a really large fanbase for most Steiner scores anymore. A famous older score by Rozsa or Goldsmith will have probably a much larger appeal worldwide. And as you can also see on this board there are fewer and fewer people still interested in Steiner. In principle, it's onlys a handful of people who are still posting in those threads about Steiner and stating their wishes. Add to this the fact that the original recording of HELEN OF TROY has very easily been available on CD for people living here in Europe for now about 20 years. So how much interest would these collectors have in such a re-recording?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)



Nowadays there certainly isn't a really large fanbase for most Steiner scores anymore. A famous older score by Rozsa or Goldsmith will have probably a much larger appeal worldwide. And as you can also see on this board there are fewer and fewer people still interested in Steiner. In principle, it's onlys a handful of people who are still posting in those threads about Steiner and stating their wishes.



I don't see many people stating their wishes here for the film music of Richard Addinsell or Stanley Black, but that hasn't stopped Chandos giving us CDs devoted entirely to re-recordings of their film music. And I suspect that those CDs have far outsold any individual Goldsmith CD releases from our specialist labels over the same period.


 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I don't see many people stating their wishes here for the film music of Richard Addinsell or Stanley Black, but that hasn't stopped Chandos giving us CDs devoted entirely to re-recordings of their film music. And I suspect that those CDs have far outsold any individual Goldsmith CD releases from our specialist labels over the same period.

But as you may also have noticed Chandos has more or less stopped their series devoted to British film composers during the last 2-3 years. So I am quite sure that unfortunately times have also changed even for such a major CD label. It certainly has become too costly to restore and release suites from such old British scores which in most cases had never been available before.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I don't see many people stating their wishes here for the film music of Richard Addinsell or Stanley Black, but that hasn't stopped Chandos giving us CDs devoted entirely to re-recordings of their film music...

But as you may also have noticed Chandos has more or less stopped their series devoted to British film composers during the last 2-3 years...


so no chance for Stan's CRAWLING EYE? Or any Buxton 'Orr-or scores?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

d/p

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)



But as you may also have noticed Chandos has more or less stopped their series devoted to British film composers during the last 2-3 years. So I am quite sure that unfortunately times have also changed even for such a major CD label. It certainly has become too costly to restore and release suites from such old British scores which in most cases had never been available before.




There were plenty of non-Brit composers in the series, like Korngold, Rozsa, Herrmann, Shostakovich. I hope there are more releases in future.

You said: 'Add to this the fact that the original recording of HELEN OF TROY has very easily been available on CD for people living here in Europe for now about 20 years. So how much interest would these collectors have in such a re-recording?'
Well, if people have been buying that unofficial CD for twenty years, maybe that indicates a solid appeal for the score, not a disinterest. Perhaps that suggests there could be plenty of owners of that old boot who would be very interested in a better version.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Even all the Shostakovich releases or the Korngold CD happened almost 10 years ago. I think that was a different time period compared with nowadays. And the Rozsa CD contains almost only pieces which had already been recorded by other orchestras before and was therefore a bit disappointing. But even that Rozsa CD is now two years old.
So I don't have high hopes that there will be many more such Chandos releases in the future.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

You said: 'Add to this the fact that the original recording of HELEN OF TROY has very easily been available on CD for people living here in Europe for now about 20 years. So how much interest would these collectors have in such a re-recording?'
Well, if people have been buying that unofficial CD for twenty years, maybe that indicates a solid appeal for the score, not a disinterest. Perhaps that suggests there could be plenty of owners of that old boot who would be very interested in a better version.


It also could be that on the other hand many people are satisified with what they already have. smile

But I didn't say that people have been steadily buying that Tsunami CD for 20 years till now. This is a misinterpretation. I rather suppose that most copies have certainly been sold at the end of the 90s and in the early 2000s in Europe so that the older collectors interested in the score have it for a quite long time. It is rather doubtful if there was still a large demand for this CD during the last few years at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

Well, HELEN OF TROY is just about at the top of my want list, now that Herrmann's OBSESSION has finally been released. I'd be happy to purchase either original tracks or a rerecording. Ditto for KING RICHARD AND THE CRUSADERS.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

As I said, as far I I'm aware I have all the full or large selections rerecordings of Steiner that I know of (bar a couple of GWTW)...I'd love more.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I'm tired of screaming "CAGED, CAGED, CAGED!!" at every film score cd producer that drops by my place here in Berkeley. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

There must be a few people from this video who would buy a copy of an official Helen of Troy CD:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcX1LmqDBgY

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

There must be a few people from this video who would buy a copy of an official Helen of Troy CD:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcX1LmqDBgY




I love your sense of humor Basil!

Hey wait! I saw the film in 1956!

So, I'll buy a copy! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I'm tired of screaming "CAGED, CAGED, CAGED!!" at every film score cd producer that drops by my place here in Berkeley. big grin



I think Max Steiner's music at Warner Bros. is CAGED! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2016 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I would LOVE a re-recording of "Now, Voyager," for me Steiner's best score and one of the greatest scores of all-time (the film is marvelous, as well). I'm surprised this is never requested as a re-recording.

Other than that, it'd be great to see "Susan Slade" and some of the lesser known 50s/60s scores find a release.

 
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