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 Posted:   Apr 6, 2017 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm developping a film music quiz, and the goal of the quizzers is to guess the composer based on the trademark sound, but not necessarily the film (these are film-savvy people). As such, I need suggestions for FAMOUS composers, but with a lesser known score that nonetheless displays their "sound". Examples:

John Williams -- "Sunday Night Football"
Bernard Herrmann -- "Overture" from THE TROUBLE WITH HARRY
James Horner -- "Ride of the Firemares" from KRULL
Jerry Goldsmith -- "Hot Water" from OUTLAND

etc. You get the idea.

I have these additional composers covered already: Martinez, Korzeniowski, Elfman, Goldenthal, Morricone, Delerue, Moroder, Zimmer, Mancini, Barry, Carpenter, Rozsa, R. Newman, T. Newman, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis and Glass.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2017 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

"i still dont understand what this thread is about?!!"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2017 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

How about Michael Kamen's "Hollywood Blvd. Chase" from LETHAL WEAPON?

Can't help you with the 80s-and-onward rock music, as I'm mostly a fan of 60s and 70s music... frown


ADDED: Although, I did like Def Leppard's early catalog. How about, "Bringing On the Heartbreak" or "Let It Go". Might stump 'em, if that's your goal. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 1:41 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

How about Michael Kamen's "Hollywood Blvd. Chase" from LETHAL WEAPON?

Thanks for the suggestion! I thought about Michael Kamen (and something from ROBIN HOOD, for example), but then I realized that although us film music fans recognize his sound easily, film critics my age and younger may not.

I also thought about Maurice Jarre, for example, but then asked myself: Is his sound recognizable enough for those who are "only" film fans? Especially if I play something other than LAWRENCE that is nonetheless typical of his sound?

It's quite a tricky category, this.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

John Barry's "Until September"

John Carpenter's "Prince of Darkness" or "Christine"

Danny Elfman's "Hellboy II"

Hans Zimmer's "King Arthur"

Thomas Newman's "Spectre" (some Newmanish track without the Bond theme)

It's kind of hard to come up with composers who have a sound the average Joe would know about, but I think those all fit the bill.

Edit: And I see you have them all covered already. Well how about David Arnold's "Four Brothers" or "Godzilla" (or "Stepford Wives" if you really want to fake them out) or Alan Silvestri's "The Abyss."

Maybe "Doctor Strange" for Michael Giacchino. Or "Panic Room" for Howard Shore.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks, Tango. Yeah, I had them covered already, but always nice with alternatives. If you're curious, I chose Barry's RAISE THE TITANIC, Elfman's TALES FROM THE CRYPT, Carpenter's PRINCE OF DARKNESS (same as yours!), Zimmer's BEYOND RANGOON, T. Newman's MAN WITH ONE RED SHOE.

Sadly, I don't think they'll get Arnold, Silvestri or Giacchino (unless I play some of their most famous film music). frown

I'm thinking about Howard Shore, however. Something Cronenberg? [Edit: I see that you suggested PANIC ROOM. I'll check that out!]

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Those are good choices! Sadly you're right, most people probably wouldn't even know about Arnold or Silvestri (despite recognizing his Back to the Future theme!) and Giacchino might not quite be at Zimmer's status with the general public yet. I think he's getting there though.

For a Cronenberg Shore, The Fly is pretty characteristic of his early Silence of the Lambs/Seven dramatic yet oppressive horror sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

For a Cronenberg Shore, The Fly is pretty characteristic of his early Silence of the Lambs/Seven dramatic yet oppressive horror sound.

Agreed, but also very famous. I know for a fact that one of the quizzers will get that immediately -- not only the composer, but the film as well. But I'm thinking some of the other, lesser known Cronenberg efforts, or PANIC ROOM, as you suggest, display the same sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

How about Lalo Schifrin; something from BULLIT, THX 1138, the theme from MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE or any other choice? He's relatively well-known to the general public, isn't he?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Schifrin is borderline. Everyone would recognize MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE, of course, but is his own sound idiosyncratic enough that I could play music from a lesser known film, and they would still guess the composer?

Older jazz scores are tricky. I have Mancini's A SHOT IN THE DARK included in the quiz -- famous theme, and the composer instantly recognizable to most, but the title of the film less so to the target audience here. My guess is they would guess Mancini for most of these things, including Schifrin.

Randy Newman is easier that way. I have his "The Majors: The Mind is a Strange Thing" from THE NATURAL in my quiz. I doubt they'll guess the film, but they should be able to recognize his jazzy, offkilter sound that he employs in most of his movies, including the TOY STORYs.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm also thinking that European composers might be easier for these people, unless they're big American names.

For example, I'm contemplating something by Michel Legrand. But Delerue is much easier, which is why I included him in the quiz (his 'bittersweet' music as exemplified by DAY OF THE DOLPHIN -- again a film I doubt they'll guess, but they'd know the composer by style).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 2:55 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sorry, now I'm posting an awfully lot in my own thread asking for recommendations by others, but perhaps a better way to ask my original question is this:

-- name some famous composers (not included in my list) that have an instantly recognizable sound, also to those who are not particularly into film music?

I want the quizzers to go: "I have no idea what film this is, but THAT sound....it must be [composer]".

OK, I'll shut up now.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Okay, Max Steiner. Or is that going back too far? Franz Waxman is another one. Something from KING KONG or GONE WITH THE WIND would be ideal for Steiner, not too obscure for young people. Something from BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN for Waxman, perhaps? smile


ADDED: There's nothing wrong with posting in your own thread, IMO. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:02 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Ron goodwin and roy budd have distinctive sounds.

Cant use Battle of britain or where eagles dare or 633 but you could use force 10.
For budd you couldnt use Get Carter but you could use Diamonds or Black Windmill or marseilles contract.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Okay, Max Steiner. Or is that going back too far? Franz Waxman is another one. Something from KING KONG or GONE WITH THE WIND would be ideal for Steiner, not too obscure for young people. Something from BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN for Waxman, perhaps? smile

Of those active in the Golden Age, I think only Herrmann and Rozsa (who are both in my quiz) are doable. I don't think the others are idiosyncratic and/or famous enough for this particular crowd to be able to separate between a Steiner and a Waxman and a Newman and a Tiomkin (even though they may be aware of several of these names). Unless, of course, I played something like GONE WITH THE WIND. But the point of the quiz was to avoid the biggest "hits". If they've recognized the composer, but not the film, I've succeeded. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

For schifrin his thrillers music is very distinctive but you couldnt use dirty harry or enter the dragon or bullitt,
but you could use Love and Bullets, telefon, st ives or sky riders.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:20 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Btw quick question - i hope none of your quiz attendees know you come on this forum ??!
Otherwise someone is going to have all the answers!!! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Btw quick question - i hope none of your quiz attendees know you come on this forum ??!
Otherwise someone is going to have all the answers!!! smile


I was thinking the same thing! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

He, he...no, I'm 100% sure they don't frequent this forum (or maintitles.net, where I also made a duplicate thread). Thanks for your suggestions, Bill. I'm continually evaluating if the names are feasible for the crowd in question -- which none of you know, of course, so it's difficult to assess the frame of reference. For example, I think one or two might be able to recognize Budd's GET CARTER, in particular, but I'm positive they would not recognize Budd 'as composer' for anything else, or anything related to Goodwin.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2017 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   Per   (Member)

Rabin have (had) a very distinct sound I guess. To me at least.

Also Nick Glennie-Smith. Again, to me anyway.

But they might not be so familiar (in style) to most people perhaps...

 
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