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 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

FYI:

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Oh. Dear..........

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

That was ... bad. Choke full of things I hate about modern scoring.

I'm guessing we now have a windows into how he'll approach the scoring.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

Here's another link (the last one is dead):

https://streamable.com/cw3he

My reaction is pretty meh - it feels really disjointed and made up of disparate parts that don't really fit well together. It doesn't feel like it has one cohesive musical identity. There's two (very spoiler light) clips that have been released and the scoring there doesn't really impress me either:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/first-two-clips-from-star-trek-discovery/

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Well I listened to it twice. The second time with my eyes closed, and to me it sounded like what composer Jeff Russo described he wanted the music to do:

-Feel like I was in the world of Star Trek even though there's a lot of action in the show.

-Play into how these characters are feeling

Kurtzman says there's a beautiful Segway into and out of the original Courage theme into the modern theme.

I thought that the first part does give you a sense you're in the world of Star Trek. And that after that it's a somewhat slurry of musical emotions - not so much as an identifiable theme. The ending is what I disliked the most - it just felt wrong but I totally understand why it's there. They want viewers (especially new viewers) to be reassured that "yep" it sounds like Star Trek.

That's my take.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

It should sound like Star Trek, but not be Star Trek. This story line is before the time of ST:TOS, so Courage's theme should not have been used. Yes, Goldsmith and others have used it, but those were after TOS. I really do not know the music of Enterprise, was the Courage Theme used in that series?

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

The stuff inbetween Courage sounds like it badly wants to be Michael Giacchino. Not a fan of the final "bum-bum" - but at least it didn't involve Russell Watson!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Brad Wills   (Member)

What has happened to the art of counterpoint and arrangement? Same three notes in mid-range strings doing nothing underneath a quarter-note/dotted half-note non-melody for measure after interminable measure, with not a sign of anything musically interesting going on, nor any indication that it's ever going to. And typical of the current Hollywood fad of stagnant sonorities. Zzzzzz...

On a side note, I saw Fathom's Events WRATH OF KHAN in the theater this past weekend. Almost half the audience stayed through the End Credits to listen to the music. Take note, Hollywood: People want to hear melodies! I can't imagine anyone lasting through this for more than a single pass, if that.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Sorry, but Faith of the Heart is way way better.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

Love it!! Well, except for the last couple bars, too trite. The overall sound does a good job of bridging old and new Trek musics.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   willymcnilly   (Member)

I think that music was really quite amateurish, underdeveloped and tuneless and the merging into the courage fanfare sounded just terrible. Why do you have to rely on someone else's magnificent melody at the end? Too bad they didn't stick with the Charles-Henri Avelange theme. That sounded better. Or better yet, just use Courage's music and reboot the original series as a tv show. That would excite me more than yet another pre-TOS show.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Bus_Punk   (Member)

For the first few seconds or so I was intrigued, then the main "theme" kicked in. Oh dear. Bland. Doesn't provoke feelings of exploration or even optimism. No identity at all.
I hope it's not reflective of the show...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

I suppose it's too late to replace this with the main theme from The Orville. "Paging Captain Broughton - please report to the scoring bay..."

Chris

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   makro   (Member)

Star Trek music was perhaps the one thing besides John Williams that got me into soundtracks. The first album I played in my first car during endless rides home from parties where I was forced to listen to annoying "dance" music was a Star Trek compilation album and I was always happy and in a good mood when I heard the themes by Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner and of course Alexander Courage.

Almost 20 years later I still think that Star Trek music is among the great film music and music in general.

The Discovery theme gives me this feeling again that I had when I was in the car driving home. It guides me and protects me from the harsh and cold reality out there.

I love it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

Well, from that video Mr. Russo looks like a nice guy, but... here is exactly why many of us were sceptical from the very beginning about his assignment. It was somehow expected.

Bland and undeveloped kind of a theme that relies only on a few bars from the iconic original. A forgettable and zero interesting thing, typical of today's so called modern sound design. If this is how they plan to engage the audience, well...

Plus, unfortunatelly, this gives us a clear clue about how they plan to score the whole thing. What a wasted opportunity, especially considering the masterpieces in film scoring that came before.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Mathew   (Member)

Well, imagine, they would have used a pop song...

I liked the first part of the Main Title. But the use of the Courage theme at the end is indeed superfluous.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

I liked it. And compared to 'It's been a looooong roooad.', I LOVED it!

And WOW! Alex Kurtzman bringing up Alexander Courage and ONLY Alexander Courage when talking about the Star Trek theme gets him brownie points in my book.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

I couldn't figure out what it reminded me of until I ran through my music collection. It's basically a slight rewrite of Giacchino's Jupiter Ascending.

https://youtu.be/pBMigKomeIA?t=29s

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I can;t say I dislike it. Or that I love it. From what I could hear, it's pretty okay. No worse than DS9, honestly, or what Dennis McCarthy had in mind for the theme to Enterprise. I just expected to actually hear a straighter quote of the Courage theme, since it was mentioned. Instead, it felt like "just close enough so we don't have to pay royalties." Maybe it is enough to send a check to Courage's estate but def not to Roddenberry's...

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2017 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)

Ugh, terrible.

 
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