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 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

You know LEGEND, the 1985 Ridley Scott "masterpiece"? When you watch it now on DVD or Blu-ray -- that is if you must! -- do you watch it with:

1. The Jerry Goldsmith score?

or

2. The Tangerine Dream score?

Just curious. I'll offer no further comment in this thread other than, if I were to watch it again -- and it would have to be forced "Clockwork Orange" style -- I'd most definitely want Goldsmith as the background score. Oh, yeah.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I haven't watched it in years, but if I were to give it another look, it would surely be the Goldsmith version.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Honestly, I CANNOT sit through this film anymore. When I saw it initially, I (thought) I loved it, but I didn't. I simply admired Ashton Groton's Art-Direction. I can't even imagine sitting through it without the fast-forward button being depressed. Even you know what a chore the film would be to sit through in your comparison to 'A Clockwork Orange'. But for the music, oh....WRINGLE, WRANGLE, WRINGLE, WRANGLE.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Can't stand the film or Goldsmiths score. Cruise never looked more ridiculous. All the film had going for it was Mia Sara (pre-botched boob job.) Pass!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

This film is more well known for the set catching on fire and the overblown Goldsmith/Ridley Scott controversy than for the film itself. I've seen both versions, the shorter TD version was shown on cable all the time years ago. I have no desire to see either version again.

While I admired the mammoth effort Goldsmith put into it, I thought the TD score was not bad at all. The film was originally released with it and I got used to it. As I recall, the TD Legend score cd was fetching some big bucks for awhile.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   The Wanderer   (Member)

Goldsmith version

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

i like the film, i watch it every once in a while, let's not forget it's ridley scott in his heyday, and although i have a dvd special edition with both versions, i always watch the tangerine dream. i dislike the goldsmith, for both the score and re-edit, i don't think either works nearly as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I don't.
I just play the Goldsmith CD.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I've only ever seen the Tangerine Dream cut - I have no desire to see the other version, so I'll stick with the Goldsmith album.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

While I admired the mammoth effort Goldsmith put into it, I thought the TD score was not bad at all. The film was originally released with it and I got used to it.

The film was originally released with it in North America. The Goldsmith score was used everywhere else from the start.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I enjoy the movie in both cuts with both scores.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

I enjoy the Director's Cut with Jerry's score very much. The opening scene with the unseen Darkness is better. I appreciate it much more comparing it to the American release with TD's score. I do like the TD score as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I do not watch the movie anymore, but the Goldsmith score, either as a standalone, or in the film, is the way to go.

The Tangerine Dream, while I now some people love them, gives the whole picture a new-agey-Yanni kinda thing that cheapens what is otherwise a very high cost production film. As a model of production design and art direction the film is really something to look at.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Goldsmith although the Tangerine Dream score is easily the least of the US cut's problems. I still don't care for it that much despite the once-in-a-lifetime sight of Tangerine Dream+Jon Anderson. Its clear that Froese and Franke were literally doing this as work for hire and weren't emotionally invested in the film (even less in the case of Johannes Schmoelling as this was the last thing he worked on in TD). Froese didn't even bother to include anything from Legend on the Tangents box. If that's not a confirmation of general disinterest I don't know what is.

Want a better TD score? Go watch Thief or Firestarter.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think I've seen the movie all but twice in my life, last time some 7-8 years ago. I'm a Ridley Scott completist, after all. I like it for what it is. It's a movie for the senses more than for the narrative.

Both scores are OK -- with some spectacular highlights, even -- but both also have issues. I don't think I've seen the Tangerine Dream version.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

For me, Goldsmith's score is the main reason the film is worth watching. Legend does not have a very complex narrative, but it is a sumptuous visual feast, and with Goldsmith's equally sumptuous music, it blossoms into a kind of "ballet", where the images and music are the primary allure.

Tangerine Dream's music is a run-of-the-mill 80s synth effort (tho to be honest I rather like the Jon Anderson song -- even though Anderson's vocals were added to their music without the Dream's cooperation or consent), but I don't think it works in the film at all.

The US cut also excises a fair amount of the character development (which was slight to begin with), and has some ill-considered reediting (i.e. the tasteless "make out" scene), and that Bryan Ferry song is an embarrassment. The resultant film is like a 90-min. music video.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2017 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Spot-on analysis Paul

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2017 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I find the movie fairly unwatchable no matter what music you put behind it, or what cut you watch.



If you can watch that clip without bursting into unintentional giggles, then you're a stronger person than I.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2017 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I find the movie fairly unwatchable no matter what music you put behind it, or what cut you watch.
If you can watch that clip without bursting into unintentional giggles, then you're a stronger person than I.


Exactly I think it's cringe worthy. But some give it more leeway because of the director involved. People wouldn't be so kind if it was directed by a nobody.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2017 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

But some give it more leeway because of the director involved. People wouldn't be so kind if it was directed by a nobody.


uh, what? it's the style with which it's directed that people like. and the touch, and the detail, and the particle effects, and the dreaminess, and all the other aspects of his design.

 
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