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 Posted:   Jan 20, 2018 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

As the title says. I'm in Europe and it's already expensive to ship from the USA, thanks to USPS. It's about this time every year that they raise prices.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2018 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I don't know, but I'm sure many here will cry about it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2018 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

USPS int'l postage rates are increasing by 3.9%, effective Jan. 21.

http://blog.stamps.com/2017/10/26/usps-announces-2018-postage-rate-increase/

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)

This is awful news. I've cut my buying to the bone.

I don't know, but I'm sure many here will cry about it.

Indeed Mr. Phelps. I've a feeling that the labels will also be crying when their international order book falls to an all time low. Less revenue for the labels means few releases, which will have an impact on you.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   ArjanOudekerk   (Member)

This is what drove me out of the soundtrack collecting hobby. I'm not willing to pay double the cost just for shipping. Occasionally I buy from Amazon but that's it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

USPS int'l postage rates are increasing by 3.9%, effective Jan. 21.

http://blog.stamps.com/2017/10/26/usps-announces-2018-postage-rate-increase/


well, that's not a huge increase. If USPS was charging $20 to UK, it would now be $20.78.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

This is awful news. I've cut my buying to the bone.

I don't know, but I'm sure many here will cry about it.

Indeed Mr. Phelps. I've a feeling that the labels will also be crying when their international order book falls to an all time low. Less revenue for the labels means few releases, which will have an impact on you.


Somehow I don't think so, since film score collectors are fanatics who will pay any price and bear any burden in the pursuit of limited edition boutique label CD releases.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

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Somehow I don't think so, since film score collectors are fanatics who will pay any price and bear any burden in the pursuit of limited edition boutique label CD releases.


Could be, but even fanatics can get tired of ultra-expensive shipping costs.
There was a time I used to order many times per year from US labels (in 2010 I ordered fourteen times from SAE).

Now this times are definitely gone.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

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Somehow I don't think so, since film score collectors are fanatics who will pay any price and bear any burden in the pursuit of limited edition boutique label CD releases.


Could be, but even fanatics can get tired of ultra-expensive shipping costs. Just my personal example of a label we all know:

In 2008 I ordered 8 times from SAE.
In 2009 eleven times
In 2010 fourteen times (= 170 soundtracks from SAE in 2010 only)!
In 2011 eight times
In 2012 eight times
In 2013 ten times
In 2014 five times
In 2015 four times
In 2016 three times
In 2017 not even once

But the number of soundtracks per year has decreased just a little bit


Perhaps the labels just didn't release CDs that interested you. I know that is the case in terms of my own spending habits over that same time span (minus the GNP-of-a-small-country sized expenditure you made in 2010).

I have never seen a post by an FSMer claiming that they missed out on a limited edition release because they were intentionally cutting back on purchases because of increased postal rates.

No, I refuse to believe that anyone here would intentionally pass on a score for reasons of increased postage rates.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)



No, I refuse to believe that anyone here would intentionally pass on a score for reasons of increased postage rates.


In a roundabout way I have. I was holding out for a large sale, to discount the shipping costs, at Intrada and Varese to purchase Dick Tracy and Executive Decision. As none came before both titles sold out, I now don't have either release. I'm sure this story could be told by other international buyers.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   12-Mile Reef   (Member)

Somehow I don't think so, since film score collectors are fanatics who will pay any price and bear any burden in the pursuit of limited edition boutique label CD releases.

I don't think you quite realise what a big change this has been and mixed with poor exchange rates it is becoming extremely cost prohibitive. I'm as big a fanatic as anyone here but my buying from the specialty labels has dropped to probably a quarter of what it was to just the essential titles that I really, really want. The prices are just becoming too high to justify, I feel bad for the labels as absolutely none of this is their fault. I see you're based in the US though, maybe you just don't care as it doesn't affect you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Mandlebrot90   (Member)

Mr Phelps, you are wrong as an international customer who would buy lots of CDs from US, I have had to curb my purchases. Just as buying patterns become habitual, likewise refraining from a purchase becomes the norm to the point where you realise, “You know what I don’t need this anymore”. The hike in international costs was the main reason I cut back, ultimately leading to me stop buying from US altogether.

The example provided by davefg and ArjanOudekerk more than substantiate other people experiencing the same. And as mentioned by Brianmcb it affects all collectors in the long run as the labels have a reduction in support which makes it harder to keep the doors open.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm not unsympathetic to the film score fan's plight, but the way some here post laundry lists of purchased/on order releases every month gives the impression that money is no object.

Since it clearly is a big issue for an increasing number of international customers, what other options are there? Would the price of CDs and s&h from European distributors or retailers be less than when ordered from the US labels directly? What is the time span between, say, Intrada, debuting a release and the European retailers having it for sale?

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

it takes a week or two to ship to EU retailers, they slap a couple of extra bucks onto the price of the cd to cover the shipping, it's really not a big deal.
i immediately switched to EU vendors as soon as the US postage went way high in 2014 or whenever it was, and my buying habits have not been affected, at all.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Would the price of CDs and s&h from European distributors or retailers be less than when ordered from the US labels directly?

Nope. European prices of US titles are usually a little more.

My solution to this last year was to take my annual holiday to the US and catch up on missing titles that way. The introduction of low-cost long haul airlines has made the USA a lot cheaper to get to than it used to be. But I'm not taking my holiday there every year just to get another batch.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

They are fine soundtrack stores in Europe that will sell Intrada, Kritzerland, etc, but also great labels! Digitmovies, Beat, Music Box, Quartet, Saimel, Alhambra is almost all i need!

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

It's getting crazy.
And it's almost like, as internet retail skyrocketed and brick & mortars went bust, no one saw this coming.

This is one of the reasons I almost never order online.
When I get score CD's from our beloved boutique labels, I get one of the 2 local used CD shops to order things in for me. They order new stock on a regular basis.
When it comes, I pay whatever the price tag says--not having to know what the owner had to pay for getting a shipment in--which is proportionately far less that the 1 or 2 discs I'd have to pay to have shipped directly to me.

Another good reason is that if a CD I had ordered in for me comes damaged, it's the store owner's problem, not mine, because I haven't paid for it yet. I just wait until another copy come in.
(Yeah, I know--the waiting is the hard part. I can cope.)

Here's a thing I don't understand, though--sometimes La-La Land and FSM products (and others, too) are in the actual used racks.
Who the deuce would get rid of them? That's mental.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2018 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   teriweigel1   (Member)

I ordered last month the new TITANIC edition from Lalaland. To order it directly from the USA would have been the most expensive way for me (I live in Germany) - it was cheaper from every dealer in Europe, but finally, I ordered it in Japan as this was the cheapest way to get it for me ! (I paid finally $ 51 including shipping for it). I ordered many times in the States for about 20 years, but nothing in the last two years - the shipping costs are horrible...

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 1:34 AM   
 By:   CK   (Member)

The only way I get enough bang for my buck these days is to wait until I get seven or eight CDs together, order them from a US vendor and have them shipped (for reasonable postage from, say, Intrada, free shipping from Amazon) to an acquaintance in the US. They then forward the CDs as a private shipment through USPS, which in 9 out of 10 cases manages to avoid getting selected by our Customs Office.

To receive eight CDs for $32 in international postage is my personal benchmark. Add to that the fact that there simply are fewer releases these days that tickle my interest, and I get a similar decrease in new acquisitions.

Our intrepid labels can do pretty little about what USPS et al. charge. Perhaps I need to start asking people in the Bay Area to please pick up CDs directly from Intrada and ship them to me...? wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 2:08 AM   
 By:   Bus_Punk   (Member)

I’m in the same boat too due to rising international postage costs.
Trying to find a decent retailer in the UK. Made the mistake of trying Elite Soundtracks - never again!
John

 
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