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May 21, 2018 - 9:59 AM
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SchiffyM
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However, all this talk about "Willow 2", in my opinion, is just "Solo" PR talk. A way to, sadly, make you prone to see "Solo".
I'm not sure buzz about an almost obscure fantasy-film that only nerds and geeks remember, will drive more people to see a Star Wars-film.
Exactly! It is very strange to me that anybody would think mention of a film that's largely forgotten now (which even in adjusted 2018 dollars made only $126,000,000) would somehow generate interest in an entry in one of the biggest current franchises, the last three films have all made domestically between $500 and $900 million!
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May 21, 2018 - 10:39 PM
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1977
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Willow was not a great movie. But I loved it anyway. Probably because I watched it a million times over because I was so in love with Horner's score. THIS folks, not Krull, was his magnum opus. He turned a so-so movie into a much better movie.
Agreed on the magnum opus (opus magnum? Thor?) part. I've never been able to get into Krull but adore Willow (please release the complete score this year for the 30th Intrada  )
I love the movie too, regardless of whether it's a "good" film or not (it's great to me, and that's really all that matters from my perspective). I was thrilled to be able to pick up a used copy of the Blu-ray after it went OOP and prices soared (thanks to the Disney/LF acquisition). One thing I think all can agree on, the mood of the film is fantastic, that world really feels as if it exists, sort of a proto-Middle Earth (weren't some of the location shoots done in NZ too?)
As for a sequel, I too will miss Horner's contribution, but would still be stoked for some kind of continuation (only if Warwick Davis and Val Kilmer reprise their roles though). Perhaps as a mini-series on Disney's new streaming service. Which composer could take the reigns and do it justice?
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I'm another person with a nostalgic love of the original. Before LotR there really were a death of decent "high fantasy" films like this, and Willow was at least one of the best. I think it has so many elements in it that work really well: the overall world as previously noted, Bavmorda, Madmartigan, Sorsha, Willow and his many of his people (especially Billy Barty's character who is fun though I wish there were more of him)...and then some elements that are frankly pretty terrible like the brownies. (That's what they call the little Leprechaunish people, right?) God are they obnoxious as hell. General Kael could and should have been a better, more developed villain. Instead he just looks cool but he's clearly a far cry from Darth Vader (even just judging from the original Star Wars film).
I'd certainly open to a sequel, though it does feel like an awful lot of time has passed. But yeah they could do something superfically similar to Willow's book sequels, making a recast Elora Danan the main character (she's the one the prophecy was about, after all!) with Willow in the mentor role. If Val Kilmer can lose some weight (hey, people used to say that there was no way Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher could come back to those roles) maybe we can even have a bit of Madmartigan. Joanne Whalley could definitely come back as Sorsha -- she's still active in Hollywood, recently showing up in Daredevil on Netflix and The White Princess on Starz. The only thing I worry about is that one of them might be reluctant to work with their ex-spouse...
Yavar
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I find it difficult to see how Disney could fit this into their already stuffed schedule of Phase 10 superhero movies and live action remakes of Make Mine Music and Steamboat Willie. If they had that kind of time, their real priority should be TRON 3.
But this is still wishful thinking for me. I love the movie, and would be keen to see an old Sorcerer Supreme Willow Ufgood rejecting the plea of heroes because magic is dead, just to piss off more fanwhiners.
THIS folks, not Krull, was his magnum opus.
Seconded.
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I'm another person with a nostalgic love of the original. Before LotR there really were a death of decent "high fantasy" films like this, and Willow was at least one of the best. I think it has so many elements in it that work really well: the overall world as previously noted, Bavmorda, Madmartigan, Sorsha, Willow and his many of his people (especially Billy Barty's character who is fun though I wish there were more of him)...and then some elements that are frankly pretty terrible like the brownies. (That's what they call the little Leprechaunish people, right?) God are they obnoxious as hell. General Kael could and should have been a better, more developed villain. Instead he just looks cool but he's clearly a far cry from Darth Vader (even just judging from the original Star Wars film).
I'd certainly open to a sequel, though it does feel like an awful lot of time has passed. But yeah they could do something superfically similar to Willow's book sequels, making a recast Elora Danan the main character (she's the one the prophecy was about, after all!) with Willow in the mentor role. If Val Kilmer can lose some weight (hey, people used to say that there was no way Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher could come back to those roles) maybe we can even have a bit of Madmartigan. Joanne Whalley could definitely come back as Sorsha -- she's still active in Hollywood, recently showing up in Daredevil on Netflix and The White Princess on Starz. The only thing I worry about is that one of them might be reluctant to work with their ex-spouse...
Yavar
I agree on the General Kael part.  And bring on Willow 2! As well as a remastering and expansion of the original soundtrack.
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Oh god please no brownies in the sequel. Please. (Though both of them are still alive, of course.)
Yavar
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I thought Lucas had divested from Lucasfilm...why would he be involved in any way? Yes, I'm sure the brownies were totally his contribution.
Yavar
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As annoying the brownies were (and they weren't that bad and had some good lines), they're MILES, nay -- LIGHT YEARS beyond Jar Jar Binks.
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THIS folks, not Krull, was his magnum opus.
Seconded.
Not thirded by me, alas. Krull takes home the gold. "Riding the Firemares," "Colwyn and Lyssa Love Theme" add "The Quest for the Glaive" are among Horner's very best work. Not to mention "The Widow's Web," "The Widow's Lullaby," "Battle on the Parapets," the main title...OMG, the entire damned score! There is just so much "Hornery Goodness" in Krull that steamrolls over Willow, which doesn't even come close to resonating with me on the same level.
Both scores backed blatant Star Wars rip-offs, so they have that going for them. If you wanna know how Horner would have scored the Ewok Celebration at the end of Return of the Jedi, pop on "Willow the Sorcerer."
Having said all that, I would LOVE an Willow expansion to re-evaluate the entire score. It was a fantastic piece of work, but Krull will always be near and dear to me.
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