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 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Olivier Rouyer (Starfe)   (Member)

the answer is here :

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=64689&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=2&r=725#bottom

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Olivier Rouyer (Starfe)   (Member)

and by the way, Ray, coming soon ?

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

LONG NIGHT is just around the corner; CHAMPION will follow.

As for the link - it doesn't answer the question - it is merely asked by another poster. I'll assume it's from LP as they probably would have heralded otherwise.

I bought a stunning 35mm Technicolor print of STEEL a few years ago and had a beautiful 16mm reduction negative made so that several of us could have prints. In fact, in wet-gating the 35 for copying we removed all the scratches picked up over the past 50 years. So the 16 prints are immaculate. I then sold the 35 original at a very handsome profit. Aside from the score, this film has quite a following and I believe the original negatives are at UCLA.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   prindlesailor   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

The other thread does now answer the question.

Bruce states that a tape was the source, and not much work was needed at all. Sounds cool to me!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Pete Apruzzese   (Member)

LONG NIGHT is just around the corner; CHAMPION will follow.

As for the link - it doesn't answer the question - it is merely asked by another poster. I'll assume it's from LP as they probably would have heralded otherwise.

I bought a stunning 35mm Technicolor print of STEEL a few years ago and had a beautiful 16mm reduction negative made so that several of us could have prints. In fact, in wet-gating the 35 for copying we removed all the scratches picked up over the past 50 years. So the 16 prints are immaculate. I then sold the 35 original at a very handsome profit. Aside from the score, this film has quite a following and I believe the original negatives are at UCLA.


Kritzerland's release is mono (the clips sound excellent) - was there both a mono and stereo LP released? I know there were 4-track 35mm magnetic stereo prints of the film made, so I assume the score was recorded in stereo.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

No, Pete, the LP was only mono.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

No, the LP of RHAPSODY IN STEEL was only issued in mono in 1959.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Pete Apruzzese   (Member)

Thanks (as he adds the Kritzerland release to his Christmas list... :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

No, the LP of RHAPSODY IN STEEL was only issued in mono in 1959.

1959?

I remember it being given to everyone in my school in the fall of 1961, which is also when I saw it at the Sewickley Theatre, outside of Pittsburgh.

To my knowledge it was never available commercially, but was a promo issued by U.S.Steel, which financed the film.

(See explanatory post on previous thread.)

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Fun stuff from the pressbook:



and the one-sheet poster!



 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

1959?

I remember it being given to everyone in my school in the fall of 1961, which is also when I saw it at the Sewickley Theatre, outside of Pittsburgh.

To my knowledge it was never available commercially, but was a promo issued by U.S.Steel, which financed the film.

(See explanatory post on previous thread.)


I have the foldout LP in my collection. I have just had a look and on the label of the record itself as well as on the back cover one can find the year when it was manufactured. And you can read there "59" for 1959.
The label number is: ADUCO 8M5. I think that this is even the second pressing of the LP, because the first one had the label number US Steel 502.
Of course the LP has always been very rare - above all during the 70s and eartly 80s -, but you could get a copy at a reasonable price through eBay in the late 90s or during the last few years.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I am delighted to add it to my Tiomkin cd library.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

LONG NIGHT is just around the corner; CHAMPION will follow.

As for the link - it doesn't answer the question - it is merely asked by another poster. I'll assume it's from LP as they probably would have heralded otherwise.

I bought a stunning 35mm Technicolor print of STEEL a few years ago and had a beautiful 16mm reduction negative made so that several of us could have prints. In fact, in wet-gating the 35 for copying we removed all the scratches picked up over the past 50 years. So the 16 prints are immaculate. I then sold the 35 original at a very handsome profit. Aside from the score, this film has quite a following and I believe the original negatives are at UCLA.


Very much looking forward to Long Night and Champion. Can't be enough Tiomkin!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

If I found my old tapes of scratched lps I recorded from my grandma's chipped-needle record player with a Kiddie's Special tape recorder 50 years ago, and those tapes were now all that remained of those recordings, and I now used them to make a CD, wouldn't they qualify as being either an lp source or a tape source?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Pete Apruzzese   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

If I found my old tapes of scratched lps I recorded from my grandma's chipped-needle record player with a Kiddie's Special tape recorder 50 years ago, and those tapes were now all that remained of those recordings, and I now used them to make a CD, wouldn't they qualify as being either an lp source or a tape source?



No, that would be an LP source.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

If I found my old tapes of scratched lps I recorded from my grandma's chipped-needle record player with a Kiddie's Special tape recorder 50 years ago, and those tapes were now all that remained of those recordings, and I now used them to make a CD, wouldn't they qualify as being either an lp source or a tape source?



No, that would be an LP source.



Kritzerland's CDs have sounded particularly good recently, whatever the source material. But I always enjoy reading info on how the source material for old scores was found or revitalized, and how the tapes presented a particular challenge to the engineer in terms of deterioration etc. In fact, when reading a booklet from FSM (for example), their usual paragraph or two about their sources is the first thing I seek out. I like hearing of the "detective work" that goes into this stuff. I'm slightly disappointed when there is no such information.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

If I found my old tapes of scratched lps I recorded from my grandma's chipped-needle record player with a Kiddie's Special tape recorder 50 years ago, and those tapes were now all that remained of those recordings, and I now used them to make a CD, wouldn't they qualify as being either an lp source or a tape source?



No, that would be an LP source.



Kritzerland's CDs have sounded particularly good recently, whatever the source material. But I always enjoy reading info on how the source material for old scores was found or revitalized, and how the tapes presented a particular challenge to the engineer in terms of deterioration etc. In fact, when reading a booklet from FSM (for example), their usual paragraph or two about their sources is the first thing I seek out. I like hearing of the "detective work" that goes into this stuff. I'm slightly disappointed when there is no such information.


Well, then you'll especially enjoy The Children's Hour booklet and I know you'll post about how pleased you were reading the paragraph all about the detective work. And what does "whatever the source material" mean, Basil. It's pretty obvious what the source material is on the particular releases you're referencing, since I mention it in all the press releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2009 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I got a notice that Kritzerland has released Tiomkin's RHAPSODY OF STEEL. They're replicating the LP with both the music-only score and the composite soundtrack. Does anybody know if this has been mastered from tape sources or did they use an LP?

If I found my old tapes of scratched lps I recorded from my grandma's chipped-needle record player with a Kiddie's Special tape recorder 50 years ago, and those tapes were now all that remained of those recordings, and I now used them to make a CD, wouldn't they qualify as being either an lp source or a tape source?


Oh, Basil, you're a caution. Happily, everyone knows you're a caution. Happy Holidays to you and yours.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2009 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

1959?

I remember it being given to everyone in my school in the fall of 1961, which is also when I saw it at the Sewickley Theatre, outside of Pittsburgh.

To my knowledge it was never available commercially, but was a promo issued by U.S.Steel, which financed the film.

(See explanatory post on previous thread.)


I have the foldout LP in my collection. I have just had a look and on the label of the record itself as well as on the back cover one can find the year when it was manufactured. And you can read there "59" for 1959.
The label number is: ADUCO 8M5. I think that this is even the second pressing of the LP, because the first one had the label number US Steel 502.
Of course the LP has always been very rare - above all during the 70s and eartly 80s -, but you could get a copy at a reasonable price through eBay in the late 90s or during the last few years.



Thanks for the info.

That's interesting. Wonder if it was produced in '59, but released in '61, because that is when I saw it in a theatre. I can't imagine it got a very wide release. It was a vanity production for U.S.Steel, based in Pittsburgh, which is where I was born and raised.

 
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