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 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

I just read in a French book about John Williams, in the filmography section, that his first film score is "My Gun is Quick" (1957) (although he is uncredited there), and not Daddy-O as I've thought all these years.
I've searched the net and apparently this information is all over.

Does anyone have more information about how much of the score Williams contributed? in what scenes, what cues etc.?
Maybe it was just source music as in Stark Fear in which he wrote party music?

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   indy4   (Member)

Actually, his first film score was for the film YOU ARE WELCOME in 1953, written for the Canadian National Film Board. It says so on the Q/A his agents send out if you write to him.

But thanks for this info, I had never heard of this film before.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Well, I meant a regular feature film with a plot.

The film you say is a short travelogue film. I found the article that has the information:

"His greatest accomplishment during this period was the composing, arranging, directing and playing of a 22 minute film background score for a Newfoundland travelogue entitled "You are Welcome""

the thing that is peculiar is why this isn't mentioned in the national film board of Canada site:
http://www.onf-nfb.gc.ca/eng/collection/
(well, I wrote to them, and hope they'll reply)

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   indy4   (Member)

Thanks, I'm interested to hear the reply.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

Most of MY GUN IS QUICK is credited to Merlin Skiles. One cue ("Murder on the Stairs") lasting about a minute and a half is credited to "John T. Williams." Since Williams was credited as "Johnny" Williams in most of his early work, are we certain this is the same guy?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I've read that Alexander Courage also contributed to the score of "My Gun Is Quick."

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   Dai Bando   (Member)

Wow,

here's a good 5 minutes of uninterrupted pure score by some lucky composer.

Doesn't really sound like Williams, but what a lengthy scene, where the director just let the composer have it.

Wonder who did compose this?

Would love to hear Williams offerings to the score.

Great footage of 50's L.A. Freeways as well.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eI63WATs8


IMDB does credit Courage and Williams with,

Music Department: Additional Music, Uncredited

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050737/fullcredits#cast





I guess it's like they say Jerry Goldsmith's First work on a feature is

DON'T BOTHER TO KNOCK (1952) Richard Widmark, Marilyn Monroe

Other crew: Jerry Goldsmith, Scoring tasks, Uncredited

IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044557/fullcredits#cast

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   indy4   (Member)

Most of MY GUN IS QUICK is credited to Merlin Skiles. One cue ("Murder on the Stairs") lasting about a minute and a half is credited to "John T. Williams." Since Williams was credited as "Johnny" Williams in most of his early work, are we certain this is the same guy?

The main titles for Daddy O used to be posted on Youube, and I think he was credited as John and not Johnny.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2011 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Well, I meant a regular feature film with a plot.

The film you say is a short travelogue film. I found the article that has the information:

"His greatest accomplishment during this period was the composing, arranging, directing and playing of a 22 minute film background score for a Newfoundland travelogue entitled "You are Welcome""


This doesn't happen to be available for viewing somewhere on the web, or is it?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, I meant a regular feature film with a plot.

The film you say is a short travelogue film. I found the article that has the information:

"His greatest accomplishment during this period was the composing, arranging, directing and playing of a 22 minute film background score for a Newfoundland travelogue entitled "You are Welcome""


This doesn't happen to be available for viewing somewhere on the web, or is it?


Not the film, no. But the early article can be accessed from jwfan.net, which is down at the moment.

I'm a bit skeptical to the MY GUN IS QUICK news. I would need some more info: Where does Jameson above get his info re: the credits? Even if it DOES say John T. Williams on that single cue, it doesn't have to be OUR Williams. And even if it IS our Williams, it could be some of his early jazz cues, like "Aunt Orsavella" or "Hello" that is being used. And if it is him and a new, original composition, one cue does not a score make.

But tantalizing nonetheless. smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 12:59 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)


This doesn't happen to be available for viewing somewhere on the web, or is it?

Not the film, no.


Shame. I like music that evokes landscapes, and Williams is quite good at these. It would have been interesting to hear an early work like this.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

the thing that is peculiar is why this isn't mentioned in the national film board of Canada site:
http://www.onf-nfb.gc.ca/eng/collection/
(well, I wrote to them, and hope they'll reply)


Yes, please let us know, I'd also be interested to hear what they say.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

the thing that is peculiar is why this isn't mentioned in the national film board of Canada site:
http://www.onf-nfb.gc.ca/eng/collection/
(well, I wrote to them, and hope they'll reply)


Yes, please let us know, I'd also be interested to hear what they say.


As will I, and probably every other Williams fan. This was big news when the aforementioned article broke it a couple of years ago (a portrait of a young JW in the air force).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Here is the article.
So, to answer most people's questions, yes, it is our John Williams.. ;-)

(3rd column, in the bottom)


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

That's it.

Thanks for prodiving the link when jwfan is down, Konstantinos.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Most of MY GUN IS QUICK is credited to Merlin Skiles. One cue ("Murder on the Stairs") lasting about a minute and a half is credited to "John T. Williams." Since Williams was credited as "Johnny" Williams in most of his early work, are we certain this is the same guy?

Where did you find this information?
(So, according to this, we should watch the movie and listen to the cue in the scene with a murder.. smile )



That's it.

Thanks for prodiving the link when jwfan is down, Konstantinos.


Nothing to it. You're welcome..

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm also curious where Jameson got his info.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 4:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Oh....and the title of this film would make an excellent porn title! big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

The main titles for Daddy O used to be posted on Youube, and I think he was credited as John and not Johnny.

Yes, credited as "John" in DADDY-O:



 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2011 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Oh....and the title of this film would make an excellent porn title! big grin



Really Thor? You don't say. Now why would anyone use sexual allusion in a '50s exploitation crime picture? Perish the thought.

I'd say it's not something to boast about though.

How quick does it get? There's a lot of counselling for that sort of thing nowadays, apparently.

 
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