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 Posted:   Apr 6, 2015 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I do. Or I could easily re-download it if it isn't.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2015 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I do. Or I could easily re-download it if it isn't.

Could you check to see if the phrase "expense account aristocrat" is in there? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2015 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   sotall   (Member)

I do. Or I could easily re-download it if it isn't.

Could you check to see if the phrase "expense account aristocrat" is in there? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.


I checked and it says "expense account aristocracy". So not quite what you were looking for.

Why do you want to know?

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2015 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I do. Or I could easily re-download it if it isn't.

Could you check to see if the phrase "expense account aristocrat" is in there? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.


I checked and it says "expense account aristocracy". So not quite what you were looking for.

Why do you want to know?


Close enough.

Back around 1982, I attended a forum where Raksin handed out a mimeographed, mini-bio. I seemed to remember him using that phrase (or something like it, as you found). I'm thinking that that mimeograph (which was single-spaced and multi-page) might have been the start of this book of his.

Thank you for your help, Sotall.

Now if only they would make this available in print somehow, old cows like me can have and keep his bio, which I'll bet I'll really enjoy.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2015 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

By the by, I seem to remember "expense account aristocracy" referred to him working on something in a foreign country, staying in a fancy-pants hotel. (But then, you've already seen my memory might not be that sharp.)

Can you tell me what he was working on? Was it a film?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2015 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   sotall   (Member)

By the by, I seem to remember "expense account aristocracy" referred to him working on something in a foreign country, staying in a fancy-pants hotel. (But then, you've already seen my memory might not be that sharp.)

Can you tell me what he was working on? Was it a film?


Raksin was still a kid working in New York when he got the call from Hollywood to go to the United Artists Studio and work for Charlie Chaplin. Raksin considered this as joining the elite -- the "expense account aristocracy". The film he worked on was Modern Times.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2015 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

By the by, I seem to remember "expense account aristocracy" referred to him working on something in a foreign country, staying in a fancy-pants hotel. (But then, you've already seen my memory might not be that sharp.)

Can you tell me what he was working on? Was it a film?


Raksin was still a kid working in New York when he got the call from Hollywood to go to the United Artists Studio and work for Charlie Chaplin. Raksin considered this as joining the elite -- the "expense account aristocracy". The film he worked on was Modern Times.


Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2015 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I just saw THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY, and it reminded me of a story Raksin once told about it. I'm wondering if the story came up in the book.


In the story Raksin says he was working on a later portion of the movie, or on something else, with someone higher up (Goldwyn? MacLeod?). I think they were asking him to re-use a piece of music from MITTY.

"You mean 'Hats'?" said Raksin, referring to the piece of music for a fashion sequence.

Raksin declined to use it. When asked why, he said something like "Because it doesn't belong in your fine picture."

Can one of you who has the book look this up, and iron out the details I can't remember so well?

Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I just saw THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY, and it reminded me of a story Raksin once told about it. I'm wondering if the story came up in the book.


In the story Raksin says he was working on a later portion of the movie, or on something else, with someone higher up (Goldwyn? MacLeod?). I think they were asking him to re-use a piece of music from MITTY.

"You mean 'Hats'?" said Raksin, referring to the piece of music for a fashion sequence.

Raksin declined to use it. When asked why, he said something like "Because it doesn't belong in your fine picture."

Can one of you who has the book look this up, and iron out the details I can't remember so well?

Thanks.


Is everyone who has the book out sipping water on Mars?

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

Is everyone who has the book out sipping water on Mars?

Swimming in it, actually! wink Joke aside, sorry i didn't see your request earlier. Bad news anyway because either the Kindle search engine is as "efficient" as FSM's one or David Raksin doesn't talk about THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY at all. The only "Walters" mentioned are Walter Gross, Bruno Walter, Francis E. Walter, Walter Schuman and Walter Cronkite. And the only "SECRET" is DR. RENAULT'S SECRET. I even typed "Danny Kaye" "Danny" and "Kaye" or "McLeod": 0 results

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Many thanks, Anabel.

I'm surprised the film gets no mention. It's very probably among his top 5 "high profile" films, historically speaking.

FOREVER AMBER
LAURA
BAD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY
????

He even showed it in his classes and discussed the score with them.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Bad news anyway because either the Kindle search engine is as "efficient" as FSM's one or David Raksin doesn't talk about THE SECRET LIFE OF WALTER MITTY at all.

Is it possible the engine searched only the abridged text, and not the unabridged version that (I heard) was included at the end?

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

Is it possible the engine searched only the abridged text, and not the unabridged version that (I heard) was included at the end?

After getting 0 result, this had been my first thought too. But abridged and unabridged versions are a single one document : the unabridged version follows the abridged one and begins at line 2048. When i typed "John", it showed results beyond line 2048 (3067, 4080, etc.). So the search engine actually searches both versions. Sorry... frown

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2015 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Is it possible the engine searched only the abridged text, and not the unabridged version that (I heard) was included at the end?

After getting 0 result, this had been my first thought too. But abridged and unabridged versions are a single one document : the unabridged version follows the abridged one and begins at line 2048. When i typed "John", it showed results beyond line 2048 (3067, 4080, etc.). So the search engine actually searches both versions. Sorry... frown


Well, thanks for looking, Anabel. Maybe I'll borrow somebody's thing-a-ma-jig, buy the book and try to see if there is something weird that prevents it being found the usual way.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2016 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Another burning Raksin question!

Does he mention Ray Heindorf in this book?

I'm trying to see if he put in writing his (spoken) contention that the genius musicians in Hollywood were:

1) Ray Heindorf
2) Alfred Newman
3) maybe somebody else

Do you see Heindorf mentioned in this way? (I"m sure Newman is mentioned lots, so searching for "Heindorf" would probably be a shorter task.)

Thanks for checking.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2016 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   franzfan   (Member)

As best as I can identify via the 'Search' option:

1) There is NO mention of Heindorf in the book.

2) There is a total of 81 references to Newman but as best as I can tell none in the context of 'genius musicians'.

3) There are no references to 'genius musicians' although there are 22 references to the word 'genius' but none in the context of Hollywood musicians.

Sorry that I cannot be more helpful.



Another burning Raksin question!

Does he mention Ray Heindorf in this book?

I'm trying to see if he put in writing his (spoken) contention that the genius musicians in Hollywood were:

1) Ray Heindorf
2) Alfred Newman
3) maybe somebody else

Do you see Heindorf mentioned in this way? (I"m sure Newman is mentioned lots, so searching for "Heindorf" would probably be a shorter task.)

Thanks for checking.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2016 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

As best as I can identify via the 'Search' option:

1) There is NO mention of Heindorf in the book.

2) There is a total of 81 references to Newman but as best as I can tell none in the context of 'genius musicians'.

3) There are no references to 'genius musicians' although there are 22 references to the word 'genius' but none in the context of Hollywood musicians.

Sorry that I cannot be more helpful.


Awww, shucks. Perhaps, then, I will be alone in recalling this about him.

Thanks for looking, Franz.



 
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