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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2015 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

JIM --

Is he still "Our Dan"? Apparently not. Have you clicked on his Profile recently?



Dan took the Ankle Express outta here quite some time ago.
Did he fall or was he pushed? I don't know.
But I do miss him, even though he wasn't everyone's cuppa tea.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Good film stars aren't always 'great' actors. Errol Flynn and Roger Moore are two good examples. Great stars in some exceptionally entertaining movies, but great actors? Not to say they COULDN'T act. I defy anyone who's seen The Man Who Haunted Himself to tell me Moore can't act. But it's his star qualities folks hire him for.

Ford's the same. Blade Runner is a great example. Acted off the screen by Rutger Hauer, but the guy's still the star of the show. Personally I like him.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

miss u dan the man

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Good film stars aren't always 'great' actors. Errol Flynn and Roger Moore are two good examples. Great stars in some exceptionally entertaining movies, but great actors? Not to say they COULDN'T act.


Those are my thoughts as well--there are actors, and there are movie stars. Obviously a studio chooses one or the other based on whether it wants to make a good movie, or one that makes a ton of money--one result doesn't always go hand-in-hand with the other.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

miss u dan the man

i didnt mind him but where was all this support when 22 mad threads of his a day arrived like spam and sank faster than a Bill carson-started thread??!! ha ha.

and he did go down some rather extreme dodgy directions on contentious issues and upset a few people, did he not?Eccentric yes, but he sort of wouldnt drop the bone if he was on thin ice, even if you tried to gently steer him to safety.

as for harrison, hes not the worst. Not even close. And hes been the right man for the job in plenty of roles.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

miss u dan the man

i didnt mind him but where was all this support when 22 mad threads of his a day arrived like spam and sank faster than a Bill carson-started thread??!! ha ha.
and he did go down some rather extreme dodgy directions on contentious issues and upset a few people, did he not?Eccentric yes, but he sort of wouldnt drop the bone if he was on thin ice, even if you tried to gently steer him to safety.



Heh-heh. That's a fair point. big grin
But I recall that I myself (along with a few others) tried to reel him in a few times when he sometimes swam out too far.
Still, better that than some of the truly mean-spirited dysfunction that occasionally pops up here.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Funny, I never was aware of him in the past, but I thought his first post on this thread was plenty mean-spirited all by itself.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Getting back to his topic:

Yes, there are actors, and there are movie stars, but it's not a "never-the-twain-shall-meet" proposition. Don't we all know some thespians we personally think are both?

Also, there's acting, and there is acting. For a grown man to wear green tights in the forest and convince an audience for two hours that he's a revolutionary leader of men requires a certain specialized kind of acting all its own, and I'd say Flynn was its leading exponent.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Funny, I never was aware of him in the past, but I thought his first post on this thread was plenty mean-spirited all by itself.


Also a fair point, but there is a huge difference between a poster giving an opinion about a public person's art and one poster attacking another poster for having an opinion.
My reference to more to the latter--which we see, unfortunately, far too much.

Anyhoo....

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I like Ford a lot.
And whatever one may say about him, there are some actors out there that can deliver lines naturally, as though they are actually speaking the words and not just "acting".
The fact that Ford did this with the dialogue Lucas wrote makes Ford a hero in my book.

Jeff Goldblum is another one of those guys. I love watching him work.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Ford was great in Star Wars. Very smooth and natural. I never understood the criticisms regarding the acting in Star Wars. Even better in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Then again Spielberg knows how to pull performances out of his actors. Ford had it in him. Later on he just became a talking head.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2015 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Appreciate your clarification, Octoberman, because of course I do appreciate the difference you describe. I guess I wanted to suggest why I wasn't surprised to learn that occasionally the guy started to veer off the deep end...

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Jeff Goldblum lived downstairs in my apartment building when he and his first wife Patty Gaul, (a very talented actress who's done way too few films), first moved to Hollywood. A sweet couple, with their vegetable juicer. He was appearing onstage in the burlesque EL GRANDE COCA COLA, and it was right around this time that he broke into films with his famous one line in ANNIE HALL. (My building has hosted a lot of other Hollywood history, but that's another story.)

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I had a few brushes with history in my childhood, as well, such as the day Jackie Robinson and his family moved onto our Cascade Road in Stamford, CT. I'm surprised no one but my friend Chris Kinsinger has brought up "42," clearly a non-leading-man portrayal if ever there was one. I, too, was moved by the film, by the way, only in part because of my personal nostalgia. It would be interesting to compare Ford's Branch Rickey with Minor Watson's Branch Rickey, presumably an authentic characterization, as he was playing his scenes opposite Jackie himself in THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY, (a film I first saw, with all the other neighborhood kids, on 16mm in the Robinsons' rec room).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2017 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   CriticsCave   (Member)

I completely agree. He is the actor I hate most in all of hollywood, and this rarely happens. I didn't mind him at first after watching star wars and Indy, but now after pretty much seeing every single movie he's been in, I can't tell one character he plays from another. It always seems like he didn't actually WANT to play it, so he's the grumpy cool guy who doesn't put any effort in. Tbh I don't get how anyone can find that appealing, he's a perfect example of success through complete luck not effort.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2017 - 3:18 AM   
 By:   CriticsCave   (Member)

I completely agree. He is the actor I hate most in all of hollywood, and this rarely happens. I didn't mind him at first after watching star wars and Indy, but now after pretty much seeing every single movie he's been in, I can't tell one character he plays from another. It always seems like he didn't actually WANT to play it, so he's the grumpy cool guy who doesn't put any effort in. Tbh I don't get how anyone can find that appealing, he's a perfect example of success through complete luck not effort.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2017 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

I disagree.. Ford has done some solid films.. the earlier films were his better works.. from the 70s to the 90s.. some were also cult classics.

Only problem Ford has that he's a terrible pilot.. in-landing sometimes.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2017 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   msmith   (Member)

You must mean early in his career when he was just starting out.




At 38:30

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2017 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I remember back when THE FUGITIVE came out Harrison was going through a grumpy phase, now he's going through a goofy phase.smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2017 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

I remember back when THE FUGITIVE came out Harrison was going through a grumpy phase, now he's going through a goofy phase.smile

I think this Goofy stage now henry is that he's a very-well paid actor, the new Star Wars alone netted him a ton, in Star Wars 77 he was paid peanuts.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2017 - 5:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Terrible Actor" Harrison Ford is 75 today.

I liked his work in Apocalypse Now.

 
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